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xygge t1_j9wryrt wrote

>You mean like when South Korean mainstream media outlets mistranslated Chinese press celebrating pickled cabbage from sichuan as "Kimchi" and then started saying China is stealing Kimchi from Korea

Again, there's a big difference here, because Chinese media, unlike Korea's, is essentially an arm and institution of the State.

And you and I both know that the Chinese would openly claim and steal kimchi if it weren't enshrined in UNESCO as a cultural heritage of Korea. Just as they steal everything. We're talking about a group of peole who claim Genghis Khan was Chinese, because he conquered China. Or who claim that hanbok is part of Chinese history, because their are Korean ethnic minorities living in China. Who pay exorbitant fees to have Korean directors come to China and teach their idiot leaders how to make movies and pop music. It's a shameful disgrace.

>Also, Korea would have been united under the north if the US didn't get involved.

You have to be top-tier stupid to think that would be a good thing. Just compare the two Koreas today, and you will easily find your answer to which side of the war should have won and unified the peninsula.

Had China not gotten involved, Korea would have been unified under a government that experienced the most ridiculous increase in standards of living and financials of any modern country today. The North would be free, families wouldn't be split, and the millions of people suffering under the Kim dictatorship in the North, spending their lives living in fear, would be free to watch dramas, or go to K-Pop concerts and cheer on their favorite idols. Instead, they're saluting the Kim family and making sure not to get caught watching bootlegged dramas, else they'll be shot dead in a public execution.

I'll never understand you tankies. Is the five cents really worth it that much? Perhaps you can spend it on some bing chilling.

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xygge t1_j9s9rpy wrote

>South Koreans bullied a Chinese Kpop singer for saying " Happy Chinese New Year" and made her do a public apology.

Big difference between random South Korean netizens bullying a Chinese K-Pop singer, and literal establishment CCP outlets and media institutions pushing forth revisionist nonsense, or the CCP government itself threatening to shut down Korean factories in China because some K-Pop star said something about Taiwan.

If you want to point out ridiculous bullshit China has done in the modern day versus what Korea or Japan has done, you're in a losing battle. A state media organization chastised BTS for not thanking China for their role in the Korean War, even though the Chinese are the reason the Koreas are split, and fought on the opposite side of the South Koreans. It's ludicrous. The Chinese government itself believes that it has the power to police what native Koreans or Japanese say on their own soil. They set up secret police stations. It's insane.

China has absolutely no shame. Everything China does is ludicrous and self-serving. There's a reason why any diaspora Chinese you meet, whether in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, or Indonesia, will go to great lengths not to tell you that they're Chinese. Even other ethnic Chinese don't want to be associated with the CCP. There's a reason that the Koreans now hate China even more than they hate Japan (which is truly saying something), and why China is the least-liked country in Japan.

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xygge t1_j9s757y wrote

What China's doing to the US is light work compared to the way they treat the rest of Asia. They do shit like force Korean or Japanese celebrities to apologize for saying "Taiwan." They randomly claim Genghis Khan to be Chinese, or various Korean kingdoms to be actually Chinese. They engage in widescale cultural appropriation. They let their factories pollute Korea and Japan, and then claim that there's actually no pollution going on. They breach international waters and fish in Korean and Japanese territory. It's honestly ridiculous.

I honestly wonder whether the world would have been better off today if Macarthur had had the stones to nuke major Chinese cities during the Korean War.

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xygge t1_j8qh4mv wrote

>Why can't we have stronger libel laws?

The price you pay for stronger libel laws is the dampening of speech and a greater possibility that the rich/powerful will be able to just shut down speech they don't like.

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xygge t1_j864h55 wrote

The whole "restorative justice" thing often gives noble savage vibes when it's applied to ridiculously heinous crimes. I can see the utility of restorative justice when applied to minors, who exhibit escalating criminal behavior. It can genuinely help petty teenage criminals getting involved with gangs or shoplifting.

But when we're talking about someone who commits felony murder, restorative justice is not going to cut it. The reason we have retributive justice in the justice system is because society at large needs to feel as if the justice system is doling out appropriate punishments for certain crimes. If it doesn't, people begin to lose faith in the justice system. Think about how people would react if a man who violently raped and dismembered a 8-year-old girl got just some restorative justice sessions as a punishment. People would start taking the law into their own hands.

Restorative justice operates on the premise that criminal actions aren't actually your decision. They're the end-result of a life of poverty, racism, etc.

But at a certain point, the justice system needs to ascribe moral agency to an individual. Meaning that, even if you grew up poor and disenfranchised, at the end of the day, you still made a choice, and the justice system punishes that choice.

If we adopt a philosophy where there's no choice ever involved, there's no reason to have a justice system. Because why punish things people didn't choose to do? It's non sensical.

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