I understand regarding "fighting crews" or whatever but I've never witnessed such a thing so can't say a lot about that. And I don't think it's common to have a couple of rave events in the same place...like in the same exact spot. I can understand different areas (Tek area, dub area and so on) but different rave organizers organising a rave in the same place on the same day? Dunno.

Again, if 1000 people conclude that it's "safe" to go there, let them. Of course there are better raves and worse raves. Some have chill areas, food, first help ready to assist, ecc. And some don't. Some concerts get overstuffed with 50k people and might have less exit points than any rave, but are supposed to be safe since they are "regulated". And people pay hundreds of euros to go there. At least raves are cheaper. How can you say any place on earth is safe for 50k people to be overstuffed in it.

Regarding the ownership thing. If I am an owner of something, and I haven't been using it for my whole life, someone else might have as well be using it in the meanwhile, wouldn't make a difference for me right? Or I sell it since I'm not using it. The fact that on some paper is written that you are the owner of place doesn't mean shit to me if you don't do anything with it. The animals wandering around "your" abandoned place that you never use are more owners than you as far as I'm concerned.

The topic about not liking the music is very straightforward within the soundsystem community. Don't like the music? Build or get your own soundsystem, find a place to play and create your own scene, simple as that.

Royalties can be a good and bad thing. For sure I'm not going to pay a fee issued by an organization that didn't make the music in the first place. Of course I'm going to supports the artists when I can AND when I must, vinyls are a good (expensive) way, but give me peace of mind regarding the "support the artist" thing.

I mean if for those 1000 people it's safe to be there than what's the problem?

Apart from the "private property invasion" thing I don't see any issue. And even then most of those place are abandoned so much and in shambles that it doesn't look like the owners care that much about the spot anyways. Might as well do something with it.

What kind of party is that if I need more paperwork for it than for buying 15 houses? Licence for what? I bring my soundsystem and my amplifiers, shouldn't need any licence to use something that's mine.

Also if your property is in shambles and you haven't been using it in 50 years I might as well make it useful somehow.