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recycled_ideas t1_jdxnvxc wrote

> is that they actually toned DOWN how crazy Commodus probably was irl.

It's really hard to determine how much of that is true. Roman historians have a tendency to paint emperors they don't like as degenerates regardless of the actual truth and Roman imperial dynasties are so short lived that no one cares enough to stop them.

Commodus pissed off the Senators and a lot of the historians we have accounts of are of or associated with the Senatorial class. He seems to have been pretty popular with the people.

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recycled_ideas t1_iuro0mq wrote

> for some shocking reason it never holds up.

It doesn't never hold up, it happened quite often during WW2.

But it requires

  1. That the people you're liberating feel in need of liberation.
  2. That they believe that your intention is to actually liberate them.

The US view of Cuba is heavily distorted and doesn't match the experience on the ground and the US was 100% intent on returning Cuba to US investors not to the people of Cuba.

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