Aside from a few "intense" recent reactions to GPT-4, my experience with this sub has been the opposite: blind optimism, complete lack of discussion about the transition period between now and AGI (or more advanced AI tools), ignorance or mockery about genuinely important questions (alignment, legality, the artists situation), people shouting UBI like it's a given, and a lack of non-european/american povs.

So, basically, just the other side of the same coin, really.

The only way to achieve what you want is with heavy moderation (like /r/explainlikeimfive, /r/changemyview or similar subs).

Are you asking specific questions, or just asking it to generate fluff and "small talk"? In my experience, it gets a lot of things wrong when you ask specific stuff.

For example: some time ago twitch had a problem with the website and app were the chat of all streams stopped working if you refreshed the page. I went to ChatGPT and asked it to give me a script to send comments to any chat using the twitch api, in python.

It gave me a normal looking script, that looked mostly alright (I wish I could post it here, but sadly ChatGPT is unavailable RN). There was only one problem: it used a package that didn't exist (which basically makes the entire answer useless). That's because there are a multitude of tutorials that use packages to do similar things, which were probably used as training data. Since ChatGPT doesn't really know anything, it generated similar looking fluff with no real substance.

I've had similar experience when asking it to refactor code and to simplify equations.

> I've said this in earlier threads, but "Don't use ChatGPT for homework" is the new "Don't use Wikipedia for homework". Some people stuck in their old ways might view it as cheating

How would someone "cheat in homework" by using Wikipedia? Honest question. I always thought that the concerns about using Wikipedia were more related to the lack of sources (or the use of unreliable sources) instead of cheating.

Thanks.

Maybe they are checking if other users feel that way? It's a discussion/suggestion post. It's very common to users of a subreddit discuss the kind of content that is appearing, discuss if it's overwhelming, and change the rules if people agree.

It happens in almost every sub that gets a high influx of content of a specific topic. That's how you end up with specific days for specific kinds of posts.

The mod of that sub doesn't seem to think that it is a problem, so it's no biggie.

The post that you linked doesn't argue for banning A.I. Either you linked the wrong post, or are malicious trying to mislead people (probably the first option).

If you are talking about this post, well, it's a unfortunate situation. The user is just tired of seeing the same post again and again, talking about which jobs will be automated and other what ifs. They even say "for a couple of weeks".

> I have ZERO sympathy for people who are entirely inflexible

Where I live, there are a lot of older people (55+) still working & struggling. If they lose their jobs, they are simply fucked until death. Not because they are inflexible or incompetent, but because no one wants to hire someone that old. I imagine that this sentiment is common in other countries.

> That being said, creative destruction isn’t new. 2000 dung shovelers in New York City lost their jobs when they switched to cars from horses. And many other jobs were created in fuel transport, mechanics, and other industries to support the car. Imagine trying to ban cars because someone will lose their job shovelling shit?

Well, no, that would be silly. But that's why this kinda of debate is important: how to make progress without fucking the lives of people? Specially considering the scale that we are talking about (where multiple jobs, even high demand jobs, that exist now will be done by A.I, and new jobs created will be few, and heavily specialized).

Unfortunately, not everyone can be an A.I scientist.

> I think that there should be a limit to how much machines are able to take over, pairing it with attrition. Similar to the automation of Transit systems like the TTC. Trains and stations are already automated. Drivers and attendants aren’t being fired or laid off. They’re just not hiring any extras. Nobody has to lose their job.

I agree, this would be ideal. But I really doubt that this will be what happens in a larger scale, and that's what makes me afraid.

> You need to contribute to society, and sometimes the contribution required is going to be something you don’t want to do. This is called a ”job”

People are afraid that the jobs available right now aren't going to be a thing, and the few jobs that will exist will be heavily specialized things, requiring higher education, time, and money.

When you spend 20+ years honing a skill for it to be worthless, it is normal to be afraid. Telling people "just work in other things", is simplifying a very big problem. I mean, it's already a big problem right now, specially for the elderly/older people.

That's 100% true.

My intention with this argument was to say: "if tracing is problem in the artists community, I don't see why a tool that can perfectly copy someone's style wouldn't be".

If you think about it, plagiarism is just using a source so well that derivated work becomes indistinguishable from the actual source. Your third grade self wouldn't really be able to do that.

Using a more realistic example, if you went to Nerd & Jock (or any artist) page on Instagram, learned their style perfectly (as AI can do), and started to create/sell comics with this style, people would probably still call it plagiarism, wouldn't they?

I imagine that this possibility is what most artists fear and why they say that every model is using "stolen art", even if they don't articulate it very well.

> Yeah except I can also go to any artist page, and learn how to draw in their style...just because an AI does it better faster than I could doesn't mean its stealing.

I don't see what you are trying to imply. When a human does is still called plagiarism, no?

I'm no artist, but tracing has been a topic of discussion in the art community since forever.