We have some now. Chess bots, for example, are generally better than grandmasters at this point.

More general, or like in a medical field, who knows. We're shitty at predicting the future.

... you do know what subreddit you're in, right? This is the subreddit people are planning which appendages they might get replaced with cybernetics.

And again, chat gtp isn't cyber jesus.

I mean, not like everyone knows every little bit. Not everyone cares, either.

But some people are too damn hyped about this stuff. You seem to be one of those that see this as like "oh shit here it is".

It's not. Calm down. Chat gpt is fucking stupid as hell. It's another step forward, not some massive fucking leap.

Kinda sounds like you don't know either. You know the hype from sound chambers about futurism stuff.

Tbh I didn't think it was that hard, but then seawater has a lot of contaminants that could block the basic clean water plus electric idea I assumed was already well established.

Yeeeeah, my mistake responding to you basically at all. I'm sorry.

Getting all this calories from a few tablespoons of material just isn't going to happen. We also don't have fucking light bulbs brighter than the God damn sun.

Besides, I've went and looked shit up, you're the one making erroneous claims and when I did the research you just shrug it off with "but i mean it COULD happen you don't know unless you can spend far more than most scientists use for research".

I mean, do they really know your whole psych profile either?

And then they'd kinda be assholes, but again, we give out our info freely already.

So, we'll all be mole people? Given the amount of land I already talked about, trying to put that all underground makes even less sense.

A small enclosed area propped up by the buildings themselves, would potentially make sense, you'd still be able to get sunlight for energy and growing food, it's just not that practical to do that for like a few dozen square miles. But it's a hell of a lot more practical than essentially doing exactly that but also digging out a few dozen square miles of underground territory...

As for blocking blasts - why. Radiation could be as simple as water, tbh. It's what we use in nuclear reactors NOW. Iirc a 30 foot deep pool with nuclear shit at the bottom, you'd be safe from the radiation on the surface.

And now it's being ass pulled.

Look, you're just not getting that kind of calories into that small, that fast growing a thing, and that's fine. Even lower calorie plants, aren't great - a solid carrot is still like 30 calories.

Surprisingly, these seemingly miracle foods, cures, etc generally aren't. If it's too good to be true...

Looking at a calculator, 40 by 10 foot pool by 30 centimeters deep is like 11k liters, 11 cubic feet, 36 square feet. You can get around 6 to 15 grams per cubic meter per day. It's about 660 wet grams per day, 66 dried. Not really a nutrient difference, just the wet is mostly water, would be more filling.

Spirulina per 7 grams is 20 calories, about 3% of your daily salt, 2% potassium, 1% daily fiber, 8% protein, 1% vitamin c, 11% iron, 3% magnesium. Presumably 9ther shit. Doesn't have calcium, weirdly, vitamin d, b6, presumably other shit.

Let's round up to 70 for ease - you'd only have around a tenth of the calories needed, be done with protein and iron needs, everything else iffy. It's only about 10 tablespoons of slime dried out, 70 spoonfuls of spinach stuff otherwise.

Kinda the same issue with food pills - even if you can add all the daily vitamin needs in a pill, calories aren't that easy to condense. It can grow a lot faster, for sure, but it's more than a "few" liters per person, which is fine, but it's also not nearly enough to be the end all be all dietary requirements.

Spirulina iirc is nutrient rich, but you still need calories - something a spoonful of algae isn't chock full of.

Not to mention you presumably also want to diversify your diet in other ways - waters a good idea for both aquatic plants and fish, potentially.

But this post wasn't about that. We literally do not have materials strong enough to easily dome a community this large. One of the biggest can hold like 55k people - not homes, not space for growing food, or businesses, storage, or any of the other minutia of a society, literally sitting space for bodies.

Underground and several story buildings can help magnify the usefulness of the space again, but it's still pretty impractical. It's a nice idea, it could potentially make for new city opportunities in desert or otherwise less than habitable areas, but there's not a good reason to do it, we can't do it very well, or to the degree you=e talking about, with current tech. - and even if we did force the issue, they still wouldn't be self sufficient in all ways.

Again - space becomes the issue. You don't tend to easily make a giant fucking dome that big - screw the other stuff, structurally speaking this doesn't work well.

I've thought long and hard about this idea too, specifically in space - rather than bases on the moon or mMars, living in a Dyson swarm ish system with a acre of solar panels and a 1 mile diameter tube living space. That much solar energy will fuel about a million people, the tube could spin pretty slowly to simulate gravity, and it can be as long as needed.

But we don't have quite the strong resources for enclosing like, an 8th if NYC. It's spread around 300 square miles, and the entire state of New York has 7 million acres of farmland - and still only can grow like 30% of new Yorks food. And there's no way to just dome that shit.

It's an interesting idea. But atm we have the ability to do it, if unpleasantly, on a small scale (not just 4 people, lol), but we don't have the engineering capable of doing it on even a decent 50k sized city, really, much less a million people - and it's still not self sufficient. Even if it has enclosed and looped water, air, food, etc, it doesn't have self enclosed production of wood, plastics, fabrics, metals, industry, electronics, etc

Because the land needs per person are a lot more vast than most people realize- looking into that sort of stuff recently, an acre of farmland grows enough food for like 4 people a year. Probably different if year round growing is possible.

Vertical farms can help reduce the space needed, but it's a hell of a lot of effort when you no longer have the help of machines, for the plants per person in the dome, and it's still a lot of space. It's hard to enclose that much space entirely.

Even at like 1/10th the space, it's like 4k square feet for 4 peoples dietary needs. It's like there being a large home with 4 bedrooms and plenty of space for kitchen, bathrooms, living room, dining room, etc. And then double that space for a vertical farm, with you needing to pick like 16 plants per square foot, like every two.months or so.

But shit can still happen, potentially. Biggest issue isn't food anyway, it's probably dealing with waste and clean water - sewage treatment works in an enclosed thing, sure... but I don't think you can just get rid of the smells resulting from it as easily I'd everything is contained like that, including the air getting recycled in a closed system...

If you're giving your entire psychological profile to a chat bot ai, pretty sure you're the problem, not the ai.

Besides, we give out shit tons of info anyway. I mean, not really that big a deal if Elon gets this info when Google had it for like 2 decades...

Depends what they can do, and what the price points are, and what the faults are.

I mean, a robot that can do all the cleaning, cooking, etc would be nice.

As an aromantic disinterested in people, sex robot would honestly be interesting too. I know, "but that's not a healthy sexual relationship" I don't really want one. I want to get off twice a week without downsides like, fucking dealing with people or intimacy, physical or emotional. I don't want to try to go out bars and pick up a 2 am, couldn't get anyone else so you'll do thinking bar chick.

Sounds weird, but a robot that could help motivate to do some basic care would be useful too - not just like a reminder from a cylinder, cause u tell myself I should do stretches and exercises still doesn't work. Not paying for a trainer, I don't care that much. A person could just fuck off.

But some part of me thinks that, I'd I had a robot walking around helping me with shit, not making any sort of emotional demands of me, gives me a be like sucking my soul out, with a finger in my ass massaging my prostate, and in that post nut clarity, grabs me by the head, looks me dead in the eyes super close and screeches in a crinoline aluminum ish voice "do some fucking sit ups once in a while you far fuck", I'd probably listen more.

I say that in a humorous way, but I'm kinda serious about the idea.

Depends how you're edging I guess. Might just be me but if I'm holding an orgasm with kegel reflexes, I'm still gonna bust when I let go, I can just hold it back for like ten seconds and let it build more.

Edging for Mr is getting to that ball tighten point and backing off for a bit and coming back from the edge, so to speak. Kegels just let's me go over the edge and not fall like a cartoon character fir a while.

I think the point was to point out the muscles to do kegels, but pointing out not to do them while actually urinating is a good idea.

Agree to most of that. But shielding isn't really the thing slowing our roll atm.

Gasp you mean you weren't specifically asking me to look into the future to describe the societal development of my offspring's offspring?

I am aghast, good sir or ma'am or whatever I wholeheartedly apologize for my mistaken assumption.

Alright, fair that some might not be shielded.

But we do have shit outside of the magnetosphere that does need to be shielded still. Electronics don't like radiation either. It's still an already solved issue, just not really for living en masse on Mars outside of domes.

Cool - probably still needs peer reviewed, but seems promising. At the very least it's a first step in a field that basically had no foot in the doorway for decades despite fuckers still leaning in and hissing "soon".

It not being related to DNA damage is especially nice, given we don't need something like crispr to edit our DNA with DNA from a past version or whatever.

New breakthroughs in general - can't rely on them in the same Moores law sense, but they still happen

I'd also argue I don't know that scientific progress has slowed per se, more we've sort of finished our backlog of stuff and it's just the newer stuff that's less easy to come by.

There's also the idea of, everything in retrospect seems faster - get a good list of the year to year big stuff, it might not be that different, but if like 6 big things happened in 2011 or whatever and you're like "eh nothing big has happened in like 2 months", those two months feel a lot closer, pressing, than the 2011 two months per event on average

Yeah kinda got that after the fuck man go to therapy I dunno, lol.

I'm on reddit killing time. Besides, also sort of trying to passively get you to understand not everyone wants those kind of replies. Sure, try, but if it doesn't seem to work, might not.

Not trying to get help, just brushing off your attempts.