So having looked through this I have a few comments:

1. It is unclear whether they studied traffic before or after the Jersey Ave extension opened as the study is '2021' and the extension opened mid year.
2. They want to add some stop signs/better striping in places that should be non-controversial but also not do much.
3. The big proposal (recommended vs other options) is to make the following changes

• Erie St One-Way southbound between 10th St & 9th St
• Road Closure for left turn movements from 9th St onto Marin Blvd

The outcome being:

To be conservative in the analysis, the northbound volumes on the intersection of 9th St & Erie St were not reduced but redirected to adjacent streets based on existing traffic conditions. Approximately 10% was rerouted to Monmouth St, 25% stays on Erie St and loops around the Van Vorst Park, and 65% was rerouted to Marin Blvd. A graphical representation of the vehicle distribution can be found within the volume figure for Alternative 1 in the appendices.

Based on our analysis of Alternative 1, we observe that the local roadways surrounding the Van Vorst Park neighborhood operate at acceptable levels of service of ‘D’ or better. The demand along the I-78/Rt139 highways exceed demand; therefore, excessive delay and queuing is expected. The intersection of 12th St/I-78/Rt139 EB & Jersey Ave with a LOS ‘F’ has heavy traffic coming from all directions with vehicles trying to access the southwest area of Hoboken, the downtown area of Jersey City, and entrance to the Holland Tunnel.

The LOS along Monmouth St and Marin Blvd will slightly increase due to Northbound vehicles being rerouted to these streets while the LOS along Erie St will slightly decrease. There is an overall degradation of 4.92% in the morning peak hour and 1.87% in the evening peak hour in network performance since heavier traffic volumes are anticipated on already busy streets.

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Other options were to basically restrict left turns off Columbus in various ways.

I don't love any of the options, but I didn't expect I would, there's only so much to be done here and if you live in the HP area almost all of them make it much harder to get in/out.

The problem with the Erie plan is that it will shift a bunch of traffic to Monmouth, which is already clogged when things get bad. This makes me think that the study may not have taken place after the Jersey Ave extension opened, though I don't know if that would have changed much.

Solomon posted it on FB last night:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IRinXgx6KUJQCDCLz1Ie3yMLZ6Psxt7G/mobilebasic

A couple of things to keep in mind, if you have a car, the decks at the complexes can be pricey, but having spot to park is nice. If you're going to do a brownstone, check out the noise level. Depending on the building you may hear every damn thing that happens upstairs or nextdoor.

I lived at Grove Point for a bit a while back, and it was great. If it made any financial sense at all I'd rather sell my row house move back into one of those buildings.

Best of luck.

You'll get snark for asking, but it's fine. There are ton of families in the area.

The downside being the trains can be loud at times and you're a long walk to the PATH if you need it.

No idea, because they haven't told us what the study found.

NYC doesn't run their own transit system, so that doesn't help. It's worth keeping in mind that NY State also fucking hates NYC and their Governors have been pretty actively antagonistic toward the city for most of all of our lives.

I think it's a good idea, I'd love to see it, but if enough people supported Leonia then that should have been a catalyst to get something done, it wasn't.

NJ is a car first state, we can't agree that congestion pricing into NYC is a good idea and our Gov and other state politicians are trying to widen a highway through a city with no pushback from anyone outside JC.

We can't get state and county roads to have any design other than 'more room for cars', the State DOT is actively antagonistic to complete streets in towns.

I hope/wish you are correct that this is something that could get done, but I don't see it.

Doesn't matter what you think of the MTA, Manhattan is all full up on cars.

Seriously, this whole board is always full of people wondering why difficult and costly problems exist and also bitching about taxes.

As if the people who take their time to work on the neighborhood park aren't aware or it, haven't tried to re-seed recently and are just sitting on piles of sweet, sweet park money and laughing about their big grift.

Jersey runs into the park and Washington doesn't have an exit to the tunnel unless you loop around and go down Grove from the North side.

It basically shuttles 100% of the traffic to Monmouth, and then has almost no other way to get to HP so anyone who lives in that area would be f'd.

Do you have any evidence that we could have changed the laws? I'm not arguing it's a bad idea, but is it something you think could have actually gone through?

NJ fucking hates urban areas, I am skeptical that the votes exist to get rid of through traffic anywhere.

It was certainly.more recent than 6 years ago, they did both of the now dead sections, one after the other.

They fenced and reseeded not that long ago. It's just way over capacity. To keep it alive they probably need to just rotate closed sections forever.

I will say that announcing the meeting but not releasing the actual study beforehand is a bit annoying.

If you want informed feedback, give the people a bit of time to review the findings in advance of the meeting. I get enough of this crap at work (hey we want to discuss X important thing, but we're not going to give you any information on exactly what we're thinking before you show up, we'd rather you give 30 seconds of thought to the topic than 2 days, thanks).

Wanted to throw Uncle Momo's into the mix here.

Yes, it has, but that doesn't mean that people just moving to the area know exactly what that means from a lived experience perspective.

If you're moving here for the first time from a place less inclusive, not knowing the extent to which it is simply is not an issue here is understandable.

From the opposite perspective, in recent years the extent to which gay friends (and Jewish friends) have gotten smacked in the face by the national scene when they hadn't really had to think much about their identity as a target for years, has saddened me a great deal.

Have you seen America lately? The whole country isn't exactly oozing inclusivity vibes. I get why people who can expect to experience outright bigotry and potential violence in many areas feel the need to ask this question.

If you're from JC, or the area, it can be really hard to understand the extent to which almost every single place being welcoming is unusual.

Jersey City just received a perfect score for inclusiveness.

https://www.nj.com/news/2022/12/these-5-nj-municipalities-get-top-scores-for-being-lgbtq-friendly-study-says.html?outputType=amp

I am not gay, so take this bit for what it is worth, but I have heard that moving into the area can take some adjustment as LGTBQ are just so much a part of the regular life of the city that it feels strange. Pretty much everything and everywhere is gay friendly. So much so that it is almost not worth much discussion about where, specifically, to live.

Anyway, I expect that you will find enough people no matter where you decide to settle.

Best of luck, I wish you success with your move.

No doubt, but I imagine JSQ feels a bit more intimidating than say, Maplewood.

I know F'all about best practice for policing or even how the JC department is approaching their job on a day-today basis, but I will say the Fulop has invested in police and the department has become much more diverse. So, if those are things you care about, I think you'd have to say he's done a good job.

It's really coming around and I find it great now, but there will certainly be an element of culture shock coming from a 1,400 person town.

Depending on if you have a car or not, the calculation can be pushed a bit in the city, as it turns our cars are expensive to own/maintain.

Harrison might work, it doesn't have a lot going on itself, but the PATH is a quick ride to Newark, JC and NYC, and it's less expensive.

JSQ is fine (I have friends with young kids who walk around and take the train from there all the time), but you're pushing your budget a lot.

Also, I might talk to a realtor who isn't scared of cities.

I'm not against socialized housing, I think it's great. The issue being that being for it, thinking it is a good policy and actually being able to implement it in a US city are very different things. Mayor's aren't emperors, they can't just decide to raise taxes and build housing they have to work with the systems we have in place and... Well, color me extremely skeptical that a mayor can force through socialized housing.

There's lots of stuff they do better in other countries I'd love to have here, but I'm not going to get all pissed off at local politicians when they can't fix systematic problems all by their lonesome.

So, yes, sure work towards it and advocate for the changes that make it possible, but that's a long term goal, not a mayor gets that done in a term or two goal.