you know how I know you don't know the stats for cause of death for most on-duty officers or the average amount of time lapsed between when an officer initiates in an encounter and resorts to lethal force?

It wasn't a cop.

And we don't know if the person shot was holding the knife.

And yes, using deadly force, even in that situation of it was correct, is a huge problem.

They are not law officers (police) they are mall cops. They don't have the training, I'd say they're not accountable but neither are the police.

Saying officer confers them the status of being law enforcement. They were not anymore than blackwater is the us military

All we know is that the mall cop shot someone and claimed there was a knife but there is no news about who had the knife or even evidence there is a knife.

The article literally says that there is no statement that the person who was shot had a knife.

And it was not an officer, as the article also made clear, it was an armed private contractor in civilian clothes.

If anyone is living in a fantasy world, it's not me.

Read the article again. It didn't say the person shot had a knife. It said there was a scuffle involving a knife (they claim) but not who the scuffle was between or who was holding it.

If you live in Jersey and work in Philly your Philly Wage tax is applied as a credit against your state income tax with NJ because of the tax agreement they have. This means you effectively JUST pay wage tax and not state income tax unless you're a pretty high net worth earner. This is different from Philly suburbs in pa where you page city and state taxes.

Property taxes can be higher, especially in some areas, but there are tradeoffs.

As for OP, NJ is competitive especially if you want walking distance to Patco (because patco is great). That being said, if you're ok being a bit off the beaten path, check the areas around the Ashland station in particular (Such as Voorhees). Also Oaklyn as others have mentioned.

Haddonfield, Haddon Township, Westmont, and Collingswood all have nice downtowns, but they're super competitive as a result.

I mean its not. When this has been tested they've lost that right to self defense pretty consistently. And the fact that the officers are not then charged with murder for killing someone who is exercising their lawful rights is kinda the problem

I mean, you're the one who made the implication that the person who was killed was holding a knife. The article in question very specifically does not say that and explicitly says that information is not clear.

If we wait for information to come out, we wait for information to come out, but "That murder by a private citizen of another private citizen is a-ok" isn't really that decent of a default to take

I am well aware of what the law says. I am equally aware that when it is attempted to be used by citizens to defend themselves from the law, it is not applicable even if that person is a legal owner of a firearm and NOT the subject to the raid in question. Heck the cops can have the WRONG HOUSE and still punish the people defending their home. There's been quite a few high profile cases about this.

I know it is. You'll get there though!

The relevance is that the argument "you have the right to defend yourself if threatened" isn't one that exists as universally as you imply.

Also, it's reasonable to expect officers to have better trigger discipline than to knee jerk "they had a knife so their life is forfeit" as excuse for anything that happens.

I think it's the fact they died that makes them the victim because generally death isn't the punishment for having debt

So you're saying that if someone is subject to a no knock raid they have a right to use deadly force to defend themselves and will be legally protected?