mementoTeHominemEsse

mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iyn4j4o wrote

Selflessness in the perfect philosophical sense your conceptualizing it doesn't exist. Everything we do has a selfish motive.

Selflessness however in the sense the article is talking about and we
talk about in day to day life is simply acting in a way that grants you
no non-moral benefits. If someone gives a beggar money an upon being asked why claim they simply wanted to see the beggar smile, we will still call that selflessness. That's simply the way the word has been embedded in our language.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iymyq7k wrote

Selflessness in the perfect philosophical sense your conceptualizing it doesn't exist. Everything we do has a selfish motive.

Selflessness however in the sense the article is talking about and we talk about in day to day life is simply acting in a way that grants you no non-moral benefits. If someone gives a beggar money an upon being asked why claim they simply wanted to see the beggar smile, we will still call that selflessness. That's simply the way the word has been embedded in our language.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iymxmd1 wrote

>You do go through more amount of pain/suffering/labour being altruistic anyways.

I'd argue that while in the long term this is true, in the short term it's often actually the easier choice, and chasing instant gratification is a sign of weakness. An example may be giving money to a beggar, even though you know it will likely go to waste. It's easier to give him the money than just walk past him. However, long term, we might know we need the money ourselves, and even if we didn't, giving it to charity would have been the better cause.

Alternatively, we might be seeking the approval of others. Or perhaps, because we lack actual power, we try place ourselves above others in an imaginary moral hierarchy by telling ourselves we're better people than them because we're more altruistic.

That isn't to say you should completely abandon altruism, or that all, or even most altruism stems from weakness, but we should at least be more aware of what is really driving us. Because altruism is praised by society, we often let our true motives for altruistic action unchecked.

Sorry for being such an edgelord btw, lol.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iymvd38 wrote

It's not my job to bring counter-examples when they haven't even tried to prove or argue for their point. But one example may be seeking validation, or thinking tbose traits are a moral virtue.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwvy1te wrote

He's not asking for a source as in argumentation; he's asking you to back up the claim that most philosophers agree that IQ is not a good measure of intelligence.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwv0al0 wrote

IQ tests test the essence of most mental abilities though. Given people grew up in roughly similar environments, IQ is very valid as a measure of intelligence.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwv01a3 wrote

No matter your precise definition of intelligence, I assume you, and anyone for that matter, defines it as an array of mental abilities. What mental abilities exactly you think form intelligence isn't that relevant, because IQ tests test the essence of pretty much all mental abilities.

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mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwuz612 wrote

They lay the ground work of all disciplines. And if philosophers were to criticise the ground work, or the "roots", of IQ (statistical psychology) that would be one thing. However just as a physicists opinion on black holes carries more weight than the opinion of a philosopher, the same goes for IQ.

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