madroxinide

madroxinide t1_j8p5va4 wrote

Yea what you described sums up the "stop doing stuff" part well. But you really gotta follow it up with a statement about how its good for the environment else you might come off a little aggressive.

And the meat thing will solve itself after you and everyone else stops doing stuff. Cuz it's only a temporary problem of having lots of meat for a bit but after it rots and goes back to the earth the earth is healed and without people doing the stuff to make more animals there won't be any of those bad animals that make burps and farts and meat so the meat thing you only have to worry about once. But as long as we didn't do the stuff that makes the animals it's ok cuz then if the animals still exist and burp and fart it's ok because it wasn't caused by stuff we did, it was caused by stuff the animals did and as long as we didn't cause the animals, the animals are part of nature and good for the environment.

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madroxinide t1_j8ou6ac wrote

See, this guy gets it.

Stop doing stuff cuz you are contributing to the killing of the planet. If you stop doing stuff as well as him, none of us would have to worry about the planet dying because we could all cancel out our impact of existence by just not imposing our existence onto the planet by doing stuff.

CO2 feeds plants and plants don't do as much stuff as animals so it's not so bad. But the animals that do stuff like burp, that's bad. Even worse is the people that do stuff that makes it so the animals do stuff. It's absurd. Anyways so if we stop doing the stuff with the animals, the animals no longer do the stuff with the burps, and the stuff that isn't carbon dioxide but is way way way worse stops doing stuff to the atmosphere and the planet and stuff. Smart.

He even gets the part where we stop doing stuff, tell everyone else to stop doing stuff, but also sit and wait for the people that are doing stuff to be held accountable for doing the stuff. So by stopping doing the stuff ourselves and waiting and depending on the other folks to stop doing stuff, we can pretend less stuff is being done while the folks doing the stuff can do more of it and make more money from doing it because the stuff we didn't do meant they could step in and do more of it instead.

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madroxinide t1_j8oc4ft wrote

Imagine having access to so much historical knowledge and science and wonder and settling on such a short sighted conclusion that eons of various weather/climate cycles are entirely overcome by a relatively benign and short existence.

Remember, being able to control the weather is conspiracy talk. Being able to impact the climate is science. Existing in the middle of a receding glacial period is science, but explaining the climate changes we see as a result of the cyclical changes on timescales we aren't that good at comprehending is absurdist denialism.

It's probably best if we don't do anything, right? I mean, we got to this point by doing stuff right? And nobody can agree or get along or fund anything enough to actually make any meaningful progress right? So if we stop doing stuff, the things that we did that made the climate so bad should stop happening so the climate should better because we were making it worse. So we should go to war with everyone else to make them stop doing stuff too because even if we stop doing stuff, other people will be doing stuff and it's the doing stuff part that makes the climate die. So we need to first do something to make everyone stop doing stuff and then we need to also stop doing stuff. And then after we do that we can let nature go back to doing nature things without any disruptions to the balance of nature. Then it will stay pristine and never change ever again because if there isn't anyone doing stuff, then nothing can change it. So this is the part where I demand all of you personally stop doing stuff like driving your car or drinking out of styrofoam because if you don't stop doing that stuff and also telling everyone else to stop doing that stuff, then more people might get the idea that doing stuff is ok, and we can't have that because doing stuff kills the planet and environment. And if I can get you to spread the word that nobody should be doing stuff, when I decide I'm gonna break the rules and do stuff, I'll be at an advantage over the other people because they think doing stuff is bad so they don't do stuff which means me doing stuff is more important and impactful and valuable to the other people that need stuff but don't yet understand they should forfeit stuff to save the planet and climate. So I make more money, we all feel better about you not doing stuff, and I'm set up in a better position to keep making stuff and making even more money from making the stuff because making stuff is bad but someone needs to do it and I've made sure that someone is me and not you.

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