oh yes ! pride goeth before a fall, as they say. I have also seen many wrecks on the side of the road from this. We have snowy, cold mountainous regions here and a lot of proud pick up drivers

yes ! i will just take my foot off the pedal and let the car find it's own equilibrium. learned this living in the northern plains. Just an intuitive thing, but it works for me -

very cool ! really, more than mildly interesting - : )