lifeisbeutiful

lifeisbeutiful t1_iuxdvuc wrote

some do live on the other side of dwight and it is fine but that's a very small number.

agreed

alderman are one of our biggest problems, holding this city back approval of projects in this city makes developers run away

other major problems is the union control of the city and massive city giveaways for low income housing. This city has everything it needs to succeed but it's not.

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuxcpri wrote

I agree that downtown has gentrified ( again, not really as noone was displaced as they added housing to a commercial district) yes, the neighborhoods you mentioned have gotten better and their "safe" boundaries expanded a bit, but the city is made up of far more neighborhoods and they have not gentrified. Back to the dwight neighborhood, it's exactly what would be gentrified but everyone is still advised not to cross dwight st.

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuxblpx wrote

it's no doubt safer as most crime has fallen around the county. But if the west side is the only one that's sketchy now in your experience it shows that the thier neighborhood have gentrified in thr last few decades

outside of small pockets of yale development around WinchesterAve, I really can't think of any neighborhood gentrifing in New Haven. can you? yes they got better but gentrified?

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuwouwh wrote

we're talking about gentrification specifficaly as a seperate idea from a nicer look or a safer feeling, though thats part of gentrification. but to use your example JC is not the same. Downtown now is amazing and journal square and the heights have been gentrified. even bergen-lafayatte is looking good. Grand Ave has hip and trendy bars. it's night and day compared to what it was even 20 years ago. whole sections have been gentrified, New Haven didn't get that wave. yes neighborhoods got stabilized and lead chipping paint painted but not gentrified. there is clear divide between original stable neighborhoods and the rest of the city.

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuwl1zt wrote

If you look at nyc, Washington, Philly JC and many other cities that are experiencing gentrification, vast areas of those cities have gentrified. NYC as an example, even as late as early 2000, most would be terrified to go to most areas, even times Square was shady. since then, whole sections of the city, areas in bk queens bronx and more are now gentrified and so on.

New haven has clear and distinct lines of separation that didn't really move. Think Dwight street. anything past dwight Street is considered a no go. that's been the case for decades. But it's literally a few blocks from yale and downtown, surrounded by old beautiful buildings in a walkable area and blocks from the hospitals and a big supermarket. yet it's a no go area as described by every post here.

Yes New Haven got safer and better and yes its originally stable neighborhoods of east Rock, Wooster and westville (and now downtown) are doing well but they always did and gentrification did not spread in any meangful way.

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuwaco7 wrote

I've been here a couple of decades. I agree, the entire city looks better now, even the inner-city sections have been repainted ( probably mandated by chipping lead paint) The two neighborhoods you mentioned were always desirable.

But if we look at gentrification around other cities, New Haven didn't move. Yes it got better but it's as divided as ever.

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lifeisbeutiful t1_iuuirwb wrote

Ahh... most of the City has not gentrified and most of the population is nowhere near middle class. There are still many areas where some would not feel safe.

Its only downtown that has gentrified (if you can call it that, it was a depopulated commercial district where new "luxury" residential development was built)

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