krussell25 t1_j9whzfm wrote on February 25, 2023 at 1:35 AM

Reply to comment by Otto_von_Boismarck in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin

If bottles don't exist, does anything exist?

krussell25 t1_j9whj4y wrote on February 25, 2023 at 1:32 AM

Reply to comment by DriftMantis in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin

I don't think you could every truly understand the reality experienced by most other people. I hate to simplify, but I don't want to type a book here either - consider a child born and raised in an American, middle class, very religious family, a child born in poverty in Harlem to a single mother with emotional and addiction issues, and a child born into excessive wealth. Are they likely to see 'truth' or 'reality' the same way?

krussell25 t1_it65uki wrote on October 21, 2022 at 5:33 AM

Reply to [Peter Harrison] Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it by BasketCase0024

I think most of these comments are understating the emotions involved. Some very significant portions of many populations have strong emotional ties to their Gods, or their science. It isn't difficult to show some imperfections in every religion I am familiar with, but remember that science gets things wrong too. Anyone who wants to see either one as fundamentally flawed has more than adequate material to reach their desired conclusion.
Even if you manage to demonstrate that evolution makes Gods unnecessary, you would still have to show Gods don't exist to actually destroy religion. You are also going to have to teach advanced science to the masses before they understand why it contradicts their religion. Many people are experts in neither and see science and religion as compatible.

krussell25 t1_it63lu7 wrote on October 21, 2022 at 5:08 AM

Reply to comment by fencerman in [Peter Harrison] Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it by BasketCase0024

There are good reasons why all ancient civilizations had a religion. Uniting a population and imposing a 'moral code' was very beneficial to the wellbeing of the group.

The question I would pose is, is it still necessary for religion to be the basis for uniting people?

krussell25 t1_it633o2 wrote on October 21, 2022 at 5:03 AM

Reply to comment by fencerman in [Peter Harrison] Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it by BasketCase0024

I would say it is more cultural than political. While religion is used to control the masses in many areas, that would not explain the current uprisings against the religious leaders in Iran. In that specific case, the population is not quite so religious as advertised and the corruption/brutality of the government has brought unrest.

The USA is another interesting case. The religion embracing conservatives are willing to accept a leader who is by no means a moral Christian in the hopes of stopping the progressive changes the country has seen in the past 2 generations.