Did a deep dive into research a couple of weeks ago and the overwhelming evidence points to Tramontina being a significantly better value than All Clad, almost always ranking par or a hair below -- for half (or less than half) the price. Just make sure you always buy the "made in Brazil" sets and not the ones made in China.

Bought a 12 piece Tramontina set as a result. Only got it a few days ago but it was $300 CAD very well spent, IMO.

I'm Jewish. I've lived in 5 different U.S. states and married a woman whose entire family is from rural Georgia and whose parents live in Northern Florida...we visit both yearly...and yet...I've only been physically attacked once in my life for no reason other than my ethnicity and it was when I was a teenager spending a summer taking a class at Penn State and living in one of the South campus dorms near "downtown" State College.