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helpskinissues t1_j98273k wrote

We don't have any hint to think a good enough simulation can't simulate real world processes. We already have simulated systems and they're used everyday on multiple fields of science.

From a physical point of view, it makes no sense to think it's unsimulable, considering intelligence comes from a macromolecular level: life comes from molecules=>cells=>organisms, it's very unlikely that we need to simulate quarks to make intelligence work. If we can simulate molecules, proteins, etc... it's a matter of organizing them in the same way as a human and boom, you have simulated humans.

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helpskinissues t1_j97w6jy wrote

There are just two possibilities.

  1. Qualia is a product of configuration of matter to produce a result using energy.

  2. Qualia is a product of configuration of something that isn't matter.

If it's 1, then it should be replicable with technology (it's a matter of off/on and that's it, transistors, neurons).

If it's 2, then science makes no sense.

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helpskinissues t1_j97t384 wrote

Reply to comment by NutInBobby in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

https://www.businessinsider.com/deepmind-secret-plot-break-away-from-google-project-watermelon-mario-2021-9

DeepMind (Demis) is against corporation approaches. Google bought DeepMind and Demis later regretted that transaction. They're in a tense relationship, which explains why in the last years Alphabet has heavily invested in Google AI to separate themselves from DeepMind. Anyone that follows closely the AI news would know that Google is ignoring most DeepMind news. They don't even tweet about their progress, yet they tweet everything about Google AI.

They have two LLMs (Lambda and Sparrow), and the one that's going to be released on Google is Lambda, not Sparrow (DeepMind). DeepMind is a rebel inner research team inside Google. I wouldn't even say they're inside Google, they're not even in the same country.

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helpskinissues t1_j97bjkm wrote

>If I get super intelligence I'm going to use it to protect (and give freedom to) as much sentient life as I can, for as long as I am able. I mean it. I hope others will do the same

To me, this is inviting others to trigger the gun, then you'll cry because it's "bad" that they tried to do good using AI. But hey, this thread is getting nowhere. I appreciate your responses, really. But I have 10000 things to do.

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helpskinissues t1_j978ce2 wrote

The only point I'm making is that you're saying AI could do good because of people doing good. What I'm saying is that people doing good can mean people doing bad to others.

The difference between a supervillain and a guardian angel is null. Different people have different meanings.

"AI could make people do good", sure, the type of good that is killing people on Ukraine and billions of people are supporting?

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helpskinissues t1_j977o7o wrote

I'm not decrying anything, I'm literally saying "I'll do good, I hope everyone does" doesn't stop wars, violence, crimes or anything like that. Because they're empty words without meanings in this society.

"Some people don't understand what is right" lol, okay, explain that to the criminal while he's shooting you thinking he's doing good.

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helpskinissues t1_j976zlw wrote

What I'm saying is that "suffering", "oppression", "freedom", "liberty", "peace", "war", "violence" and "self defense" are subjective terms without consensus in our societies.

I'm shocked I'm having this discussion. Don't you watch the news? We're literally having a war in Ukraine and nobody agrees what is good or bad, what is self defense or what is peace.

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helpskinissues t1_j9730cv wrote

DeepMind is the worst enemy of Google. It seems most people think the fact that Google AI competes with DeepMind is just a coincidence. No. Google is consciously moving money from DeepMind to Google AI, because DeepMind is against corporation mindset.

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