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getthetime t1_jdcwon2 wrote

Also worth noting that unless the OP's name is attached to the estate then not paying the bill will not affect his/her credit score, and UVM med can go suck a dick.

It's always good to keep in mind that any time a creditor threatens you, there is still only so much they can do. So unless they can come after you personally, I say let them send the notices and beg all they want. By the end the calendar year it becomes nothing more than a loss/write-off for them anyway.

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getthetime t1_jczgiiy wrote

FYI it's roughly based on Smuggler's Notch. The trails don't match up perfectly, but the lift line and the ridge of Madonna Mountain (rear mountain) do: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/54e64401e4b09706d499d446/1548424759187-R68N6JVIXB0CUOOAN1O8/Stowe+buying+Smugglers%27+Notch+Ski+Magazine.

The front mountain is roughly based on Morse. You can even see the Morse Highlands area behind the pine trees, bottom of the mountain in the foreground. https://nyskiblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/smugglers-notch-trail-map.jpg

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getthetime t1_jczghfq wrote

Yep. It's roughly based on Smuggler's Notch. The trails don't match up perfectly, but the lift line and the ridge of Madonna Mountain (rear mountain) do: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/54e64401e4b09706d499d446/1548424759187-R68N6JVIXB0CUOOAN1O8/Stowe+buying+Smugglers%27+Notch+Ski+Magazine.

The front mountain is roughly based on Morse. You can even see the Morse Highlands area behind the pine trees, bottom of the mountain in the foreground. https://nyskiblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/smugglers-notch-trail-map.jpg

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getthetime t1_j3dbi1c wrote

The trees and therefore the sap is all organic, obviously, but the "organic" label w/ maple syrup has to do with the both how the sugarbush is managed and the production after the sap is collected.

For example, to be considered organic, the sugarbush source must have a buffer zone with a specific minimum between it and areas that use pesticides and/or fertilizers. Undergrowth cannot be trimmed (at least within reason, so I understand), and the forest has to have companion species to maples to ensure the long-term health of the forest. Plus I believe there are specific ways the trees need to be tapped to ensure the health of the tree, and the tubing has to be cleaned with organic cleaners, not harsh chemicals.

During the production, organic syrup has to maintain its integrity by not having minerals removed. There are other components too but I can't remember anymore. Read up on it though if you wish, it's kind of interesting. And if you've ever been around large-scale commercial operations (I grew up with family boiling in small sugar shacks and knew people running huge operations) it makes a bit of sense. Technology and the pursuit of efficiency do affect production in ways that a consumer wouldn't really be able to tell. Like, I don't know if it makes a difference whether tubes are cleaned with alcohol or harsh chemicals, and I don't know how much of that gets into my system, but for sake of transparency I guess it's nice to have some insight into how any food item is prepared.

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getthetime t1_j1uxsyg wrote

The rope tow is higher up the hill by the T-bar. The Mitey Mite handle tow is incredibly slow and easy to use.

Besides, for first-time skiers, you don't ride the lift. They have you side-step up the hill to get a feel for your skis under your feet. They do this at pretty much all hills; Okemo has an entire slope dedicated to first-timers side-stepping uphill and snowplowing down.

You won't get a better and more affordable lesson anywhere else, I think Cochran's is great for first-timers. Bolton Valley, which also has a handle tow, which look like a bunch of big floppy rubber horse dongs, also is great. The beginner slope is entirely enclosed by trees so no out-of-control skiers ever come blasting down the hill behind you, and it's a very wide and gentle grade -- probably better in that regard than even Cochran's. And they're close to one another.

Those are my two picks. Cochran's probably has the edge over Bolton for ski school quality, though Bolton probably comes out on top if you want a good lesson and have a fetish for big blue rubber horse wang.

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getthetime t1_iww9w6r wrote

Fun fact: beneath the small park in front of the Vermont Maid Building on Pine Street (where Great Harvest is) there is an absolutely enormous holding tank for the fake syrup, that is still there to this day. Before they renovated the park about five or six years ago you could still see the outline of the top of the tank if you knew what to look for. They covered it with gravel now, unfortunately.

Inside Great Harvest is a tiny plaque commemorating Vermont Maid's history there, just to left of the front door. I think it's neat that fake syrup and Maltex hot cereal were manufactured across the street from each other for many decades.

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