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flambeaway t1_j2am2w1 wrote

All Vermont law about posting and land access is hunting law, the right to general pedestrian access is a recognized implicit extension of hunting access. The right to restrict general pedestrian access is a recognized extension of the right to restrict hunting, so all the same burdens apply.

The only signs that don't need to be dated are safety zone signs. Also no trespassing signs on buildings, but I don't think that's what you meant.

But if you've got a source that supports your understanding I'd be interested to read it.

These are my sources:

https://vtfishandwildlife.com/learn-more/landowner-resources/private-land-and-public-access/what-posting-means

https://legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/10appendix/001/00014

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flambeaway t1_j27s6sr wrote

>Signs must:

>Be placed at all corners of your property (or the portion you wish to post) and spaced 400 feet or less apart along or near boundaries,

>Be at least 8.5 inches wide by 11 inches tall,

>Have lettering and background on contrasting colors,

>Be legible, including any additional information or wording,

>Be maintained and dated each year, and

>Permission Only signs must include a way to contact the owner.

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flambeaway t1_j27s1jr wrote

>They don't have to be dated or signed.

They do have to be dated.

>Signs must:

>Be placed at all corners of your property (or the portion you wish to post) and spaced 400 feet or less apart along or near boundaries,

>Be at least 8.5 inches wide by 11 inches tall,

>Have lettering and background on contrasting colors,

>Be legible, including any additional information or wording,

>Be maintained and dated each year, and

>Permission Only signs must include a way to contact the owner.

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flambeaway t1_j23gsf2 wrote

You can use it but can't sell it or give it away in state.

>how would I even prove that it's grandfathered and not illegal?

The burden of proof is on the prosecutor in the extremely unlikely event that any attempt is made to charge you.

That said, some magazines have date stamps that can prove age. It would be pretty much impossible to prove that you owned the magazine (in Vermont) prior to the law coming into effect.

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flambeaway t1_ixq9mpx wrote

I'm just thinking that you want it named whatever someone searching for it will type.

I'm not in the dating pool, and offer no guarantees that your sub will have any success regardless of name, but I figure a better name will give it its best fighting chance.

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flambeaway t1_ixn8dam wrote

r/DateVermonter is pretty awkward.

Why not r/VTDating, r/VermontDating, r/DatingInVermont or any other less awkward subreddit name?

Also, probably best to avoid "Vermonter" given how contentious its definition can be.

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flambeaway t1_iuj4etb wrote

I would assume it's that people want both species preserved, rather than a love for one and a hatred for the other.

Also the only reason we don't have wolves is because killing them is EXTREMELY acceptable, at least historically. It's also why almost every island nation hunted them to extinction centuries ago.

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flambeaway t1_iswoyf9 wrote

>I found it absolutely shocking since you can’t have dogs off leash anywhere in public except designated areas.

That is entirely untrue.

Neither Vermont nor Hartland requires leashes in public areas. Hartland requires that a dog not "run at large" which means a dog that is none of the following:

> A. On a leash;

>B. In a vehicle;

>C. On the owner’s property;

>D. On the property of another person with that person's permission;

>E. Under the verbal or nonverbal control of the owner; or

>F. Hunting with the owner.

Specifically, these people probably felt their dogs were under "verbal or nonverbal control" despite the fact that the clearly weren't, and that they were required to be leashed in this area anyway.

I'm sorry for that.

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