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drsillyus t1_iy6ifkq wrote
Reply to comment by PeeledCrepes in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
That's an opinion, not backed up by the evidence.
Evolution also selected for the following, in relation to spiders and other crawling insects.
Killing them, hiding behind those who kill them, staying in a group that deters insects, people who make fires, people who avoided all bugs and more.
Just becasue some people have no Innate fear of insects, does not mean that evolution has not selected for revulsion towards insects.
The fact that so much knowledge is available about how harmless most insects are medical treatment exists for nearly all bites, yet arachnaphobia does not go away, kind of shows you how persistent the fear is in some humans.
Just because you don't think it makes sense, doesn't mean evolution hasn't selected for it.
Many pointless things get passed on. Fear of the specific is a real evolution.
Why else would a cat, who has seen snake like toys, still recoil in fear over a fake snake behind them?
Because snakes fed on cats a lot.
Just like minor insect injuries killed countless millions of humans over the millenia
drsillyus t1_iy67zxl wrote
Reply to comment by PeeledCrepes in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
You're cherry picking examples. Evolution isn't alway perfect, traits aren't passed on to everyone.
Every animal on the planet has been proven to have fear instincts for survival.
Cats who have literally never seen a snake, still fear snake like objects.
Infants instinctively know how to hold their breath and swim
Extreme phobias are learned. For sure, but that in no way negates the fact that, there are instinctual fears that have been passed on
In the past, humans were more likely to die from environmental factors, than other humans. 99% of ancient man's death, was via predator or disease.
Just look at common apes for the exact examples.
They war over territory and kill each other sure, but they die 99% from predators, insects or disease.
You really don't see how that is the main factor, not the random tribes.
Shit, for a lot of our evolution we were literally rodents. That stuff hasn't gone away.
Learn more about evolution please.
Those who avoided death, bred. That is all
Stop citing examples that are too recent for evolution.
drsillyus t1_iy5nn5g wrote
Reply to comment by mobrocket in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
You may want to look into that. There have been many deaths by splinters, even in modern times.
You forget that humans used to have 15 kids and only 1-2 would make it to adulthood. Oh so many died
drsillyus t1_iy5mj0i wrote
Reply to comment by mobrocket in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
You forget about medicine. Before sanitation, a splinter was death. Any open wound would basically kill you. That includes spider bites.
You seem to not really understand how evolution works.
Sure humans killed each other, but they also helped and bred with them, furthering the species and reenforcing that, those who don't run from the cave men, have children.
However, those who did not avoid biting insects, would simply die and not breed.
Over millions of years this creates an effect.
Learn more about evolution. It doesn't do what you think it does.
drsillyus t1_iy5kwx7 wrote
Reply to comment by mobrocket in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
I don't fear spiders. I think they're cute.
I am aware of what evolution does and doesn't do.
Innate fear of snakes and other deadly animals is documented across the globe in many species. It is simply another example.
Only since we began growing in population and forming cities, was there a danger from other humans.
This being only a thousand years in effect, next to millions of years of non city living, where other humans were the only thing you could be sure was not going to kill and eat you. It makes no sense to fear humans since there has not been enough time for evolution to take effect.
Humans didn't spread disease more than insects until we developed global travel.
Evolution happens over hundreds of thousands of years at a minium.
Do you get it? City life and the dangerous nature of humans has only been present for mere thousands of years.
Not enough time for evolution.
Lack of medicine and knowledge, meant that a spider bite, even a non venomous one, would likely spell death by infection to any early human
drsillyus t1_iy5jdq4 wrote
Reply to comment by mobrocket in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
Early humans didn't die to spiders, because they avoided them. Same with snakes and other dangers.
Its also the same reason we sneeze when we see the sun, moving from dusty musty, rotting caves, to clean outside air. Those who didn't clear their lungs, died of respiratory infection.
Culture changed instincts in some places, many it remains.
It makes no evolutionary sense to fear other humans. That's why.
Culture has existed for a thousand years or so, evolution has been doing its thing for millions of years.
Your wrong about it being cultural
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drsillyus t1_iy4yol9 wrote
Reply to comment by mobrocket in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
Roaches spread deadly disease.
If you don't live on a farm you have zero chance to be killed by a cow.
Consider evolution and how that fear kept us alive. That's why. It has nothing to do with being ugly. Everything to do with survival over millions of years
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Reply to comment by KingfisherArt in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
It's not an aesthetic issue, is a safety issue.
We don't hate spiders because they're ugly, it's because they can kill you
drsillyus t1_iy2v3pl wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
No, it would be like saying all cats of a certain size, not all mammals.
I didn't say all arachnids, I pointed out how a wolf spider looks like a hobo spider and is roughly the same size as a brown recluse. Both are deadly. All inhabit the same area
There is a reason that has zero to do with aesthetics
drsillyus t1_iy2u0gd wrote
Reply to comment by Run_MCID37 in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
Wolf spiders look very similar to many species of deadly spiders.
Your reasoning is invalid.
drsillyus t1_iy2tm5b wrote
Reply to The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
Not to humans.
If you look at total cat attacks, that doesn't even tell an accurate picture, as people spend millions of times more hours in close quarters and handling cats with no danger.
Relate the time spent hanging spiders, to the amount of deaths.
Also, spiders in general, kill a lot of people every day.
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Reply to comment by PeeledCrepes in The fact that Cats are far more dangerous than Wolf Spiders, yet we love them far more and are far less afraid of them, says a lot about how humans value physical appearance in creatures by Run_MCID37
You keep thinking evolituon is logical and follows exact death tolls
It doesn't. Learn more come back ffs. You're pretty much a kid or severely learning disabled to be this far off the point and this unable to grasp evolution