cpr4life8

cpr4life8 t1_j92z86w wrote

If there is a chance that a wrongfully convicted person can be put to death then there is no way to give that person's life back after the punishment has been administered. If there is no death penalty then there is no chance that the state is going to murder someone who did not commit the crime for which they have been convicted and sentenced.

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cpr4life8 t1_j92uvpx wrote

Where is your evidence that the death penalty would be any more effective than life in prison for financial crimes?

I didn't claim that you were asserting that something was going to deter crime 100%, my point is the state shouldn't be fucking murdering people because no matter what the penalty is people are still going to commit crimes. And if the state isn't murdering people then there's no chance that someone who is wrongly convicted is going to be murdered.

It's not that fucking hard. The state shouldn't kill people. Period.

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cpr4life8 t1_j923vez wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_M._Heidnik

There have been 3 executions by the state of PA since 1976. All were in the 90s during the Tom Ridge administration.

I'm glad we can agree that there are many imprison who don't belong there. Now if only prisons weren't operated for profit that might not be as big an issue as it is.

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cpr4life8 t1_j91xya3 wrote

What if we make more room for people who truly should in prison by setting free people who are there for minor offenses like marijuana possession? Then we don't have to build new ones.

Before Trump there had been no federal executions for 17 years. All it takes is the "right" person in office to crank up that death machine again. 1999 was the last execution in PA.

And last time I checked, I don't believe our legal system allows victims of a crime to decide the punishment - nor should it.

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cpr4life8 t1_j91sbz2 wrote

I think a lot of that stems from the uninformed who think it's cheaper to execute than to imprison for life. Some of those uninformed will then go on to argue that the appeals process should be changed so the state can expedite murder of a citizen. And they willfully ignore the fact that many who were wrongfully convicted no longer have the chance to appeal because the state killed them. Sometimes due to a technicality in which new evidence is still ignored.

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cpr4life8 t1_j8zzx41 wrote

There hadn't been a federal execution in 17 years...then trump was elected and he got that ball rolling again. We don't need that in our state. Pass the legislation and take it off the table completely.

Also, "defund the police" is a horrible slogan and provided Republicans with a major, although fake, talking point. "Police reform" is what should have been used right from the start. Polls show even some republican voters agree with that.

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cpr4life8 t1_j8zy8tw wrote

https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more_expensive_than_life_in_prison#:~:text=The%20study%20found%20%E2%80%9CCombining%20all,but%20wasn't%5D.%E2%80%9D

"In the six states that have abolished capital punishment over the past decade, Republican and Democratic officials have also emphasized the cost of the death penalty as a major rationale. Even in states that retain the punishment, cost has played a central role in the conversion narratives of conservative lawmakers, public officials, and others who question the death penalty as a waste of taxpayer dollars.[4][5]"

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