Today I saw them out of the booth and it looked so strange. I remember questioning why, just because it is so noticeable, but that makes sense.

That is a 50/50 chance at best lol

Thank you. I have nothing to add. You're right on the money here.

I would answer this but the person right below you (above this answer) answered what I would have said.

I know about this. Unfortunately I think you misunderstand what "wrongfully arrested" means here. It means you were arrested and/or convicted for a cringe you did not commit. If the DA has evidence that they claim link you to the crime insert Central Park 5, Richard Rosario, etc then this law wouldn't apply. Also everyone doesn't know if this law (and often public defenders as agents of the state pressure innocent people to take deals). There are too many moving parts. The system is broken and running back to something that doesn't work is not the best move.

> And before ANYONE says "well *insert number" people support it", I don't care. Not everyone knows the law and most people operate based on what they think the law is. But I digress.

DEFINITELY must have missed this part in your quest to be right.

Also the "Tough on crime" and "War on Drugs" legacy conservative policies and a cornerstone of ANYTHING they talk about. So I stand by my comments.

Opposed to people consistently being wrongly convicted or held for YEARS on charges that are then dropped due to lack of evidence. Bail is NOT PUNISHMENT. We need to do something but we need an original idea.

EXACTLY. But that's what conservatives do best. Knee-jerk, fear monger, and overcorrect based on how many people of the "others" they can hurt in the process.

We've tried the "tough on crime" and "War on Drugs" angle for 40+ years. Sooooooo yeah, I don't know that 2 years is enough to undo decades of terrible conservative policies. Plus bail IS NOT PUNISHMENT. That's LITERALLY a violation of several constitutional amendments to impose a punishment before a sentence has been given by a judge.

That being said, the revolving door of people with 10,000 charges being let back out on the street is wild. There should be a precondition that people released must not commit new crimes and that certain crimes go through a separate review process to determine whether that person can safely be allowed to be released pretrial.

And before ANYONE says "well *insert number" people support it", I don't care. Not everyone knows the law and most people operate based on what they think the law is. But I digress.

The current dynamic can't continue but it can't continue anymore than the one favored by the conservatives for the last several decades can continue. We need to sit down and come up with policy divorced of politics and pleasing "the other side of the aisle". Or else we will end up having this discussion again.

No. Don't get me. Fuck the confederates. Fuck the "state's rights" crowd. You're ABSOLUTELY right.

Simply put it was because the colonies were separate entities that banded together to form a country and the southern colonies preferred a confederation similar to how the colonies were rather than a federalized country. The northern colonies preferred a federalized country, mostly.

They tried the confederacy for about 10 years and it didn't work so they created the Constitution and a federal republic. The South has ever since been trying to create a confederacy once through war and now through laws weakening the federal government. The Constitution is a compromise of those ideals.

I personally think the Federal government should have the majority of the power that they then devolve to states. Being that I'm a non-white person, historically that makes sense, since state's rights have almost always been the antithesis to civil rights and it's been in the federal government's interest most of the time to, at least nominally, promote equal civil rights..

I know the history of why it was created (or reintroduced). I know all of the reasons why you need one, how to get one, what is for, etc. It doesn't change the fact that you were wrong about a hukou being given for purchasing property.

We're digressing from the point though. The point being that with similar amounts of money, ridership, and size, Shanghai has a far superior metro system for a plethora of reasons. Even if we were to adjust spending to match cost of living, instead of looking at gross numbers, the MTA severely underperforms. Almost at a criminal level, if you ask me

>Gosh, you have little understanding of how things work in China.

I lived there for 5 years. I know exactly what a hukou is. It's a registeration permit that allows you to live in a specific area, usually related the 1st tier cities. And you can't just buy a property in Shanghai to get a hukou.

"Gosh, you have little understanding of how things work in China."

There are many factors that go into it. Your marital status, how many years you've paid into the system, possession of a residence permit for the specific area, and a bunch of other requirements.

>Buying a home is what gets you a hukou in a big city.

"Gosh, you have little understanding of how things work in China."

Since that is NOT how you get a hukou. I explained some of the things you would need to buy property. Having a hokou allows you to buy property, not the other way around.

These are the requirements for getting a hukou:

Those possessing qualified talent, such as having established a startup, owning patents, founder of or senior management in a leading company;

Those who earned at least a bachelor’s degree overseas;

Those who have newly graduated from university;

Those who are spouses/children/parents of Shanghai-hukou residents;

Those who hold a Shanghai residence permit and have contributed to social insurance in the city for at least seven years.

Not once do I see anything about owning property. You get the privilege of owning property by having a hukou.

So, "Gosh, you have little understanding of how things work in China."

>Property tax is not existent because, with very few exceptions, the government owns all of the land. Income tax is negligible in China.

So this is a Hong Kong paper talking about Mainland China but I'll use it anyways since it's easier to do that than try to get one from behind the firewall in English BUT it is CLEARLY discussing property taxes. So your statement isn't true.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3157477/chinas-property-tax-causing-sleepless-nights-homeowners

"Gosh, you have little understanding of how things work in China."

That being said, public funding by the Shanghai government and the State of NY is derived from pubic funds, which come from gasp taxes. Either way, both in relative numbers and gross numbers, they're spending similar amounts on public transportation. Only one is doing what it should. The other isn't. It would seem to me that were should figure out how they're doing it, adapt it to our situation, get these mafia clowns and grifters off of public welfare (attaching themselves to public projects) and make the system what it should be.

>And you keep missing the point where I keep saying that because I am elaborating on why the Shanghai system costs less, it does not mean I am praising the MTA.

I do NOT miss the point. You're trying to insinuate that the MTA is doing the best that they can with what they have. That's patently false. Now I don't expect $.50 fares either. That's wild and unrealistic. But for $2.75, we should be getting so much more than what we're getting.

> Do you need to buy a house in NYC to have a 户口 and access to the pubic services? That’s what subsidizes public transport.

I didn't have a hukou (户口本 or household registration for those who don't know what we're talking about) or property and I had access to all public services. Granted I had a work visa so I'm probably splitting hairs here lol, but that isn't the main fundraising method for the metro system. It's taxes, just like here. And government investment. So it's a moot point, insofar as mentioning hukous.

> If the income to housing cost ratio was as skewed in NYC as it is in Shanghai, we could hire migrant workers to build and repair tunnels without OT, probably it would be close.

I'm not sure if you know how much housing costs in NYC but it's skewed pretty badly. Affordability wise, it doesn't cost $20 Billion annually to have half of the trains at any given time running on a modified route or schedule and to have inconsistent service. Shanghai as a city is pretty comparable to NYC. Maybe not a direct comparison, as you already know, in terms of COL, but relatively it's very comparable.

>My qualifying my earlier statement is not the same as saying the MTA is great. Different inputs produce different results.

And my point is that in similar sizes economies, in terms of wealth generated, with similar sizes population and ridership rates, with similar funding sources, the MTA is doing abysmally in comparison.

> Congrats, I’ve lived in all three places too. 给你鼓个掌

恭喜你。Then I question your previous statements because it should have been obvious to you then. While Shanghai CAN BE cheaper than NYC, is also a pretty high cost of living city. Hong Kong on the other hand, is extremely expensive and often surpasses NYC in COL. Both places have significantly better metro systems and have about the same number (or more) in terms of usage. Point being that for the resources that the MTA has at it's disposal, it does a really bad job.

LMFAO sadly this is mostly true.

Sooooooo being that I've lived in all three places, I can speak from a place of actual knowledge and not blind loyalty to an underperforming city. This isn't what I think or feel or hope to be true. This is what I've actually lived.

> Shanghai and Hong Kong do not have flat fares, they have fare zones. Shanghai’s is probably cheaper on average than New York’s, but I doubt if Hong Kong’s is.

Distance based fare is a knock on the MTA and not Shanghai Metro. The Shanghai Metro system is larger in distance than the MTA system and the most you'd pay is $2.18 for a trip. That's ONLY if you're going from the extreme ends on the system, which is generally unlikely because most destinations you'd go to are in the metro area, versus the outskirts and villages of the Shanghai Region. A short trip within the 4 Train circle will cost you about $0.45. An average one, probably $0.80 - $1.00. Add that to the fact that you do not have to leave the system to access any train within the network.

HK Metro is also cheaper than the MTA, in exchange for for much better service. Mind you, the MTA is not even the busiest service in the world. It's not even in the top 5.

https://www.intelligenttransport.com/transport-articles/118931/10-busiest-metro-systems/

> Shanghai receives huge subsidies to operate and both HK’s and SH’s are not open 24/7.

As far as subsidies, the MTA is also being subsidized. To the tune of nearly $8 Billion annually. As is the nature of all public infrastructure. It's not supposed to be wholly self sufficient. That would defeat its purpose of being for the general public. So other metro systems being "subsidized" is another weak argument. We're just really bad. And we shouldn't be. Not with the amount of money we spend.

That being said, the MTA is wildly inefficient, overpriced, and subpar. It's embarrassing.

Shanghai has the largest network in the world. NYC is more compact so it has more stations, sure but that doesn't take away from the fact that Tokyo is the largest city in the planet by population. Shanghai, was a region has nearly 25 million people but the city center is very densely packed. Taipei (Greater Taipei) and Seoul are both 7M and 10M respectively. NYC is about 8M (add another million in terms of tourists and commuters so 9M). Hong Kong 7.4M and far more densely packed than NYC in Kowloon and HKG Island. So as I've stated, population density and ridership is there.

Actually out of the top 10 busiest systems, MTA is 7th in the world. There's no reason for the gross inefficiency, TERRIBLE maintenance, trash, security issues, reliability, etc. No other system I can think of regularly has you ride in an opposite direction, switch trains, catch a bus, and take a shuttle, just to reach a station that was on the original train's route anyways.

The MTA is open 24/7, yes but the ridership is so low that they should be able to use that time to fix the issues they're having. Also systems like HK Metro close for 5 hours at night, run with greater frequency, move similar amounts of people at a lower cost. And HK often comes in as the most expensive city in the world for real estate. So it's not like it's some backwater town with a low cost of living.

The issue is poor governance, corruption, and apologists who try and justify a rotten system.

Yeah Tokyo is a different level of meticulous lol. Seoul is great too. Other places outside of Seoul though can be a little different.

Naw you're not wrong though. We treat the city like shit but it's like the chicken and the egg. Do we treat it like shit because of the government or is the government ineffective because we treat it like shit?

Firstly start demanding accountability. I don't mean a couple of policy wonks on Reddit or the couple of tech millennials who go to the meetings. I mean as a city vote these clowns out then go after the governorship. The amount of naked corruption is staggering.

My brother. You have NOT lived in China is you think that's the case. I'm convinced that in certain areas, they've perfected the art of littering. Still a great country though. Mention Japan and Taiwan, you might have an argument though. But it's not just culture, in terms of cleanliness. And that's still a weak excuse, on the part of our government, to not handle business. We lie about how we're the "greatest city in the world" and I was embarrassed to live abroad and see that we aren't even the greatest city amongst the top economic powers. NYC is looked at as TImes Square, Billionaire's Row, and Wall Street and we're supposed to pretend like that success and glamor is everyone's. It's NOT. We can do so much better.

Off the top from having lived in or frequently visited these places: Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, and Hong Kong. Moving similar numbers of people, in similar cityscapes, with similar usage rates or more, and a significantly lower cost with a much cleaner, safer, and well ran system. I lived in Shanghai for 5 years and they managed to build out and add 5 lines within that time. Obviously they've been in development for longer than a year per line but it's not $10 billion+ and 20 years damn near like the Q train that's going 30 blocks max.

Cheap where? I can name 5 subway systems that are of its size, cleaner, safer, and cheaper. They get $20 Billion a year. Shit is ridiculous. Get rid of the endless commissions and unnecessary corruption.

You said absolutely nothing at all of any substance. My previous comments stand. Go be loud, wrong, and angry somewhere else. I'm not going to engage with a seriously ignorant individual who keeps trying to move the goal posts to obtain a moral high ground that doesn't exist. I've made my statements very clear on every topic and I stand by every statement. Have a good one.

The NOI is very Conservative in nature. Their religious beliefs and views towards other ethnic groups, their views towards LGBTQ people, and the list goes on is proof of that. These are all very Conservative policies. I know you hate to hear it but let's LITERALLY pull a run of the mill Democrat and run of the mill Republican, remove all NOI identifiers from their belief systems and see which politician supports it. That in and of itself is an indicator.

Next, ignored by the press?! What part of the internet do you live in? Nobody, and The Rock means NOBODY, in the mainstream press is a friend of the NOI. In case you haven't paid attention to the NOI, one of their biggest enemies is the White liberal. Don't believe me. Believe them. Look up the numerous publications and speeches by them on the topic.

Next, most older Black people are religiously Conservative, socially moderate to liberal, and economically liberal. This is why the Left-ward swing of the Democratic party has rode a wave of Black voters to victories for the last decade. So that point you made fell completely flat.

Next, since like most conservatives you like to lie through your teeth, even if the opposite is sitting in your face, I have already stated my opinion on Black nationalists. It's the same as my opinion of White nationalists. Although White nationalism is the genesis of Black nationalism, two wrongs don't make a right. I stated that CLEARLY and said that I think NOI are predators. I don't know how much stronger condemnation is needed. But with liars and manipulators like your type, I don't think it matters.

Besides, she's not my rep. But being that you're likely not from NYC, you wouldn't know that. I don't live in her district and had I, it's obvious that she's not my choice. 1. I'm very pro Ukraine. 2. Very pro-Jewish. 3. Very pro-culture/race mixing. In no particular order. And if you are from NYC (Staten Island will NEVER count in my book, argue with your mother), you are again intentionally lying about how voting and districting works to insinuate that I somehow voted for her because I live in Manhattan. She represents a part of Harlem. 10th District, I believe. I do NOT live in that district therefore she's NOT my rep.

Since you like to mix topics and have clearly demonstrated inability to comprehend complex topics, I will TDLR it for you. I said NOI are the worst ever because of how they try to manipulate Black Americans by inserting antisemitism and racially prejudiced ideology into otherwise legitimate discourse, i.e. lacing vegetables with polonium.

I also said that I think we should be careful to separate legitimate criticisms that even many actual Jews have about the modern state of Israel from unfair criticisms targeting Jewish people for simply being Jews. There's a complete difference. One is rightfully criticizing genocide and human rights abuses and the other is unadulterated hate directed at a group of people simply for existing. Zionism is NOT Judaism.

I also said that I feel like extremist talk is seeping into mainstream dialogue, often unknown by the people saying it (how it often starts) and it's my responsibility and the responsibility of other Jews/informed people to educate against that.

Where in any of my comments did you see any of the absolute bullshit that you tried to say. I know Trump, MTG, and Santos believe yelling lies and insults as loudly as possible is a way to muddy the waters of conversation but I'm not like other liberals. I don't care about decorum and turning the other cheek. That's a Christian value. I'm not Michelle Obama. I don't go high. When y'all go low, I take it to the m@thaf#$&in' flo' (floor). Be gone.

And to be clear, eff Louis Farrakhan, eff Elijah Muhammad, and eff the NOI. They're not even Muslim. Nothing they teach is Islamic or of Islam.

Yeah bro, naw. You gotta chill. Yes, Eric Adams is dirt. I don't think anyone here will disagree with that but you need to take that "woe is me" BS back to Staten Island. Systemic racism is absolutely real. Read any history book. Just 60 years ago there were actual laws on the books to this effect. Just 30 years, there were actual government policies specifically targeted at particular groups, and today when can point out MULTIPLE issues still stemming from the fact that for the last 400+ years people like yourself will NOT get out of the way and let us end racism for once and for all. So no, White supremacy has DEFINITELY earned the vitriol that it gets.

Now that being said, I denounce EVERYTHING the NOI stands for. Regardless of the fact that one or two of their points might sound appealing in a vacuum, it's all fruits from a poisonous tree. Racial prejudice and systemic racism are both stains on humanity and should be eradicated.