>Never called that an urgent safety concern, so not sure why you’d throw some quotes around that like it’s something I said.

Yup that's a my bad, confused two comments.

While I do agree that there shouldnt be a frequent (naturally, one or two lemons will slip through) issues that need addressing right off delivery, if it was just weather sealing or maybe a slightly squeaking door etc, I personally wouldn't let that stop my purchase.

Imagine being unable to read about the very issues you keep bringing up. Elon might ^(absolutely) suck ass, but at the very least the dude can read.

>Thought I’d try and work out what you weee talking about with a quick search. And I’m a little bit chilled at the story, to be honest. The autopilot turned itself on after a collision? What if the driver had lost consciousness, or had actually managed to navigate through the crash safely?

Autopilot as far as I know, always concedes control to the driver, unless the driver is unresponsive. I recall only once hearing about autopilot taking over/turning on after a crash, but I don't remember the circumstances. Might have been the driver hitting the prompt due to the inertia? I haven't heard about that one since then though.

I don't think easily amendable issues like weather sealing and panel gaps count as "urgent safety concerns" though.

See the thing I don't understand is how you and a couple other people in this thread say there's these big, huge, irredeemable issues, yet the cars have been tested by many countries safety authorities and given quite high marks. And even if you didn't believe those, you hear almost once a week that a Tesla saved some driver or passenger from a potentially fatal wreck.

Yes of course there's some big issues with Tesla's (autopilot not being an autopilot, driver assisted modes not seeing obstacles, etc) but safety from a pedestrian and passenger perspective? Not even close. The most unsafe I've ever felt in a Tesla has been always due to the driver, not the vehicle.

It isn't our job to vet your hypothetical sources though. They replied with their personal experience as an owner of the car, and you just said in effect "nah they aren't" then stating it was a fact.

If you want some more personal nonowner experience, I haven't had any bad ones except the echo on the model Y. To actively discredit myself: my experience is from getting a ride in uber (MY, MS, MX, M3/E) and my friends vehicles (MS and M3/E), which is definitely not the same thing as owning and daily driving them.