arrogancygames

arrogancygames t1_j24wejf wrote

I literally said nothing about anger, you may be projecting. It's simple; we use history to inform us of the future. Realizing that part of the rise of fascism now is based on trying to return things to the 50s standard of where minorities, gay people, and women were subservient helps us to better fight against the rise of facism. We can use further back history like Germany, etc. to compare the patterns to, to better help us fight it. That's how it works.

Fascism wasn't being fought in the 50s because you has multiple basic slave classes to support those in power already. It had already won to a large degree. We now have to make sure it doesn't get back there.

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arrogancygames t1_j22oft2 wrote

I kind of see it as the reverse. The 60s were glorified as hippies and peaceful marches changing history when it was actually bloody and crazy and knowing that the white youths being scared of the draft combined with minorities starting to get more and more violent means that the country had to move a different way to flourish.

Less about showing the past and more about hiding the darkest parts of the past.

Look at how few people knew about racists bombing black prosperity until Watchmen came out.

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arrogancygames t1_j22dvtw wrote

My dad was born in 58 and his parents couldn't own property and they couldn't drink out of the same water fountains as other people. My grandmother could at best be a maid, and would basically make pennies to do so. Every gay person was completely in the closet. Please explain what was so great about that period?

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arrogancygames t1_j22djlp wrote

It's kind of suspect.

In 58, women and black people were not allowed to work, information was very regionally controlled, and it was really, really hard for people to educate themselves on anything. You had libraries, but without college pushing you, you had no idea what to read.

The side effect of this is that average white males basically were able to have an average existence and still cheaply own houses, cars, etc. and get regular sex. Women couldn't get decent jobs, so they were forced to marry and stick with dudes they didn't necessarily want for other comfort. Latin and black people couldn't get the best jobs so there was no competition, etc. The "nuclear family" is basically based on this lack of competition and choice. That's what "Make America Great Again" is all about.

Time trav me back to 1958 and I'll end up lynched on a tree because I get dragged behind a truck for getting tired of someone calling me the N word where I couldn't live a basic existence or even get property and it wears on me too much where I get myself killed.

The 50s is a ridiculously ludicrous time for anyone to say, and when they do, they're hugely suspect.

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