alukyane
alukyane t1_j29m97s wrote
Reply to comment by seboll13 in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
Neither of them is countable (in the sense that neither of them can be matched up with the natural numbers).
alukyane t1_j29h3oy wrote
Reply to comment by Aki_The_Ghost in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
Who said anything about x?
alukyane t1_j29g6yx wrote
Reply to comment by M8dude in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
Fair enough.
alukyane t1_j29fxza wrote
Reply to comment by ThePhilosofyzr in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
Sure, why not!
Fun fact: 2 * 0+2 * 0=5 * 0. Also, 2 * infty+2 * infty=5 * infty.
alukyane t1_j29eswo wrote
Reply to comment by M8dude in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
(1/x)-1 is correct for going from (0,1) to (0,infty).
Your function would send the interval (0,1) to (1/2,1) in a weird reversed/distorted way (check endpoints to confirm).
And the op is most likely talking about cardinalities, not the counting measure, if we're nitpicking. :)
alukyane t1_j2998zx wrote
Mathematician here. The op is correct, at least for one common interpretation of "as many".
The usual meaning of "as many" is that you can match up the sets. For example, the interval (0,1) has as many points as the interval (2,3) because I can match x up with x+2.
(0,1) also has as many points as (1,infinity) because I can match x up with 1/x. Or we can match x up with 1/x-1, for the op's claim.
The weird thing is that (0,1) is definitely smaller than (0,infty), in the sense that there are points in (0,infty) that are not in (0,1)... infinity is weird.
The other weird thing is that there are other ways of measuring size that aren't based on cardinality (the pairing up of points). For example, the interval (0,1) has the same cardinality as the interval (5,7), but the two intervals have different total lengths So in that sense (5,7) is bigger... and of course (0,infty) is bigger yet...
So, in "practice" it matters what measure of "more points" makes sense for the particular comparison.
alukyane t1_j0hbl7w wrote
Reply to comment by Weed_O_Whirler in Does rotation break relativity? by starfyredragon
Ok so then what is measurable is local variations in acceleration, not some global acceleration relative to all inertial frames.
And sure in reality uniformly-accelerating frames don't actually exist, but that also includes the zero- acceleration case, since there's always some galaxy far far away applying a force...
alukyane t1_j0h92dr wrote
Reply to comment by Aescorvo in Does rotation break relativity? by starfyredragon
We then seem to agree that the top-level claim above about acceleration is wrong: you can't actually tell whether you're in an inertial or accelerating frame, if the acceleration is the same for all observable objects. Right?
alukyane t1_j0ggjgs wrote
Reply to comment by Aescorvo in Does rotation break relativity? by starfyredragon
It's definitely an accelerating frame, since gravity is acting on it. Probably rotating, too, at least around the planet. In any case I'm mostly interested in how free fall could be distinguished from 0 gravity.
alukyane t1_j0get2c wrote
Reply to comment by SomeoneRandom5325 in Does rotation break relativity? by starfyredragon
So if they're indistinguishable, I shouldn't be able to measure different "absolute acceleration" in the two, right?
alukyane t1_j0f61ht wrote
Reply to comment by Weed_O_Whirler in Does rotation break relativity? by starfyredragon
Something's weird in this explanation. Isn't freefall/orbiting indistinguishable from 0-gravity because everything in your environment is experiencing the same forces?
alukyane t1_j29ys77 wrote
Reply to comment by Aki_The_Ghost in There’s just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as there is from 0 to infinity. by Resinate1
They were joking about 2 going to infinity...