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a1b3c3d7 t1_iwu5bs4 wrote

Maybe if you didn’t cut their budgets year in and year out, and realised their importance we wouldn’t be here.

Even now, the current proposal is to ONLY increase salary from 40k to an AMAZING 45k?

… are you fucking kidding me? Why would someone get a college degree to work in an extremely high stress line of work that likely will heavily affect their mental health even beyond their employment only to then deal with constant budget cuts left and right.

Everybody loves parading about how they care about the kids until it comes to actually caring about the kids.

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a1b3c3d7 t1_iw6s07b wrote

What a very poor point to make that defies basic logic.

The FDA has not, can not, and will not test every crock pot manufactured and chase every manufacturer down and make records for the last 72 years. They are not infalliable, your own source states this and that you should conduct your own tests for any vintage wares, or where possible just not use them, additionally if you look through their data, they've only tested 4 American made products... All the rest are international. The only reasonable takeaway from your source is that you should be careful... Which is all a bunch of random people on reddit are telling you.

If this basic logic is too much for you to recieve from a bunch of people over reddit then theres no helping you.

That burden of responsibility to know what your products are made of and their risks is on you, and you alone.

. The FDA also states that there is an acceptable amount of lead leech, despite lots of new peer reviewed studies suggesting that there is no safe amount of lead exposure. The FDA rules regarding the matter are not up to date, like many things these things take time to update and standardise.

Newer crockpots still have a small amount of lead leech that is well known despite this. Their answer to queries regarding this was that they are below FDA regulatory levels.

The FDA is not the be all and end all absolute governing authority on the matter, merely a guiding body.

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An individuals investigation into lead leech and representatives comments

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a1b3c3d7 t1_ivo040q wrote

As a pathologist, some of what you’ve said conflicts with how things are in medicine.

You don’t test positive for lead poisoning through something like this. For incremental heavy metal poisoning the effects take years to decades to onset, but even then its difficult to directly attribute medical complications to it because its something that patients won’t mention when they’re giving a history because they don’t know most of the time. There is testing for trace metals but it’s expensive and rarely done from the get go for a multitude of reasons. The cdc no longer recommends testing for it unless there’s indicators that you’re at risk of it.

The immediate short term effects are soo vague that things are rarely attributed to lead poisoning, and the longer it goes on the more it becomes the baseline norm, so patients then have never lived a life different so they don’t understand that they should have more energy, less stomach aches and headaches, memory loss, reduced appetite, constipation, etc.

Eventually what happens, and we know this happens because there are long term cases and studies that prove this happens, is that people start having bigger issues like heart disease, high blood pressure, kidney disease, infertility, etc. All things that are usually more likely to be caused by something else. Again, unless there’s some indicator.. which there rarely is for cases like this.. they go through what it’s more likely to be instead. So doctors will treat these symptoms often assuming they have no direct cause (like how blood pressure is exacerbated by things but really can present in anyone) but these symptoms may continue in these situations and only get worse over time, eventually you increase your risk for cancers and heart failure, kidney failure, severe mental issues, etc. By the time the big ones come up they’ll definitely figure it out then.. but at what cost.

If you do have lead exposure chances are, eventually when you get sick.. it’s probably been heavily caused by lead poisoning to the point you probably otherwise would not have been sick.

You are correct in the sense that it could could have been a negligible amount of lead, every case is different. But what we do know is that the effects of lead poisoning are very often missed and they are difficult to trace back the longer time passes. We do know that lead poisoning causes generational health complications if there are kids involved. We do know that wherever possible, the best practice is to avoid lead exposure wherever possible.

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