Shoo North Korea, we've got bigger problems facing us right now.

There are segments of the right wing who believe JFK Jr is going to show up any day now and declare Trump president.

Point being, there are crazy segments in every political movement whose beliefs are out of step with the majority.

As a man, I sympathize with men 🥺

>If we accept the notion that crimes like robbery and burglary are consequences of poverty (and/or a lack of opportunity in the area)

As a proof by contradiction, if robbery and burglary are not consequences of poverty, then I'd assume just as many rich teens would be robbing stores and breaking into cars as poor teens.

Last time I checked, rich teens are not being arrested at the same rate as poor teens for burglary and robbery.

Therefore, these environmental factors outside of a teen's control definitely influence whether or not a crime occurs.

I'm all for personal responsibility, but I'm not blind to how environments influence people and communities. I want to see the right balance struck.

Feels > Reals

>I understand their stupid ass positions and the faulty logic used to get there.

I don't believe that.

>I don’t believe or support it and will not excuse murder, robbery or any other violent crime for any reason.

You're not being asked to. Again, I don't think you actually understand what the other side is arguing.

>They deserve prison and should be removed from society.

Many people on the other side of the issue would agree with you. However, is prison going to be a punitive experience? Or is it going to be rehabilitative so that when they leave, they have the skills to rejoin society? And as a society, do we have the systems to reintegrate them?

Currently, most of our prisons don't prepare prisoners for success. Moreover, our social safety nets, housing laws, and hiring practices basically ensure these people have no real chance at starting a new life. Our current system basically guarantees recidivism and an endless cycle of crime.

I don't know about you, but that does not seem like a good or fair system to me. And if you don't care about what is good or fairness, then at least you can probably agree it's a big waste of taxpayer money.

For those who are actually wondering what "restorative justice" means, don't take the word of an anonymous person on the internet.

There are plenty of experts and credible resources which explain what it actually is.

This might be hard for you to understand, but 3D printers and supplies are expensive and take technical expertise to set up. Also 3D guns fucking suck.

Do you gun nuts ever think through your arguments? Or do you just uncritically parrot what you read in your discords?

Everyone is in favor of realistic and modern laws on paper. Now man up and say what you actually mean. What laws? Universal background checks? Assault rifle bans? Red flag laws?

What do you actually mean?

I know this is hard for you to understand, but manufacturing a gun requires a lot more skill money and capital then fermenting plant matter.

Also, you realize the world doesn't just consist of America, right? I can easily look at other countries and see their gun laws work.

To sum, your historical example is bad and real world evidence shows gun prohibition works.

Why are all of the arguments from gun nuts so bad? Your analogies are bad and the only history you know is the United States and some bad history about WWII.

Me thinks if guns were rare, hard to obtain, and expensive, they wouldn't have been able to possess guns in the first place.

Why don't gun nuts understand how supply and demand works?

>The 2nd amendment was written to guarantee your right to protect yourself from these animals.

"You need guns to protect yourself from people with guns."

Galaxy brain argument.

I think I remember reading about that on Hunter Biden's laptop /s

Lol this is so naive of geo-politics and how Chinese espionage works.

We should lock everyone up then to prevent all future murders.