It’s quite astounding you literally said, yourself:

> A woman being pulled out of a car

(while omitting her children where in the car and that this has happened previously.)

To:

> Implying that we should shoot anyone that we feel threatened by

I might have missed this part. When was that exactly inferred or implied?

Perhaps her stance should be: “Nah, nah, naboo, boo! I’m calling the cops. You can’t do anything until they arrive!”

I’ll give in: Women in their car, with their children, must submit, less they be “murderers”.

Honestly, are you people even listening to yourselves?

Enjoy every second of it mate. Enjoy that contentment, you deserve it, and thanks for your public service.

More importantly, thanks for standing ip to the fact that anybody deserves the right to defend themselves from being violently attacked.

“OkAy BuDdY, GoTcHa!!!!!!”

this is hilarious!

> I’m not a paramedic lol.

But damned if I don’t present the rhetoric like I am and demand your “numbers” I don’t fully understand myself but present as a “gotcha”!

You must be quite literally inept to not understand that no sound person would divulge that information publicly on a forum such as reddit.

That’s not the “gotcha” you desperately want it to be.

Seems to me the user offered to pm you further information. Did you take them up on that offer?

I’ve followed this thread quite closely.

> Literally no one is saying people shouldn’t defend themselves

That seems to be precisely what your argument has been?

> government does not act it is up to the individual and community to protect themselves.”

I mean, I fucking hate guns, but can you reasonably explain to me why the right to carry a gun is not justified here? Like actually reasonable?

Is this woman, who is violently being grabbed from her car, that also has her children in it, supposed to say: “nah, nah, nah, nah, aboo, boo, I call time out! I’m going to call the police. Things are in time out until they arrive!”

What more could a right to self defense exist of?

> it isn’t out of the realm of reality for someone to interpret that as you wanting more than ‘individuals using “adequate self-defense”’. It is especially not out of the realm of reality considering the country we live in.

This is your projection to attempt to self validate your ridiculous interpretation. Nothing more, nothing less.

Right. A women being accosted from her car with children is difficult to distinguish from a group of people in the act of accosting her

I like how the woman, with her children, suddenly became a “mob”.

I fucking hate guns but this person is just nuts. I would do anything in my power to instinctively put an end to anyone trying to forcibly accost me from my vehicle that also had my children in it.

And here we have the goal post pushed further down the field.

Fucking hilarious.

“I’m just going to let you forcibly, with ill intentions, grab me out of my car that also has my children in the back seat. I’m sure your intentions are altruistic.”

Again, I’d like to point out the the user painted the picture of being forcefully grabbed out of a car that also contained her children as the scenario in which force would and should be reasonable. Any court of law will uphold that reason. You’re just trying to antagonize for the sake of antagonizing.

So you’re a woman with kids and your forcibly being grabbed out of your car that has your children too, and that’s not a reasonable enough situation to use force?

That’s just an excuse to want to be a “vigilante”?

Fuck me. I hate guns but this doesn’t stand the most basic of reasoning.

It’s amazing how you turned this into a racial issue while trying to scapegoat this as a racial issue.

> And had to issue an apology for some of the speakers espousing white supremest rhetoric at the celebration.

It’s ironic given today’s political climate, in New England, as white supremacy propaganda is literally being thrown onto our driveways in rice filled ziplock bags, this is so brazenly overlooked.

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

As others have said, just go to a laundromat. I go once a month or so, do one small load and cash in &20 or so in quarters to take home.