TheNoobsauce1337

TheNoobsauce1337 t1_j97tgzo wrote

For me I find that physical books immerse me more in the story if I'm actually sitting down to read (not to mention I remember more details), but audiobooks are great if you're in the middle of something such as cleaning or driving.

My normal go-to is physical books when you're waiting or have free time, audiobooks if you're driving or doing chores (yay Bluetooth speaker).

It also depends on the narrator they pick for the audiobook.

Example, True Grit as read by Donna Tartt was a fantastic audiobook because both she and the main character are from the South (U.S.), and her reading combined with Charles Portis' writing was so natural-sounding that it literally sounded like I was listening to a firsthand historical account instead of some fictional retelling (the book is written in first-person).

My suggestion, play around a bit and see what you like best.

My cousin has ADHD so audiobooks works better for him. I prefer physical books because once my brain gets into it after 10 or 20 pages, I can't put the book down.

Whatever works for you.

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iulmgzn wrote

Ahh I see.

Believe it or not, I wasn't posting this to troll. I legit had a scientific question and wanted to test the idea out with other like minds.

Contrary to what you see on today's internet, I actually appreciate the criticism. Bouncing ideas back and forth (pending real experimentation) is what I think makes science both great and important. Seeking out truth through hypothesis and experimentation.

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iulltb8 wrote

But that's the thing. Part of the electricity in the generators would be re-routed back to the boilers to maintain the heat. Would that be possible?

Basically the water is constantly boiling, the generators have two circuits. The larger circuit powers the engine, the smaller circuit maintains heat in the boilers.

Would that be possible?

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iullo5z wrote

Makes sense. So the amount of electricity to maintain a boiling temperature would be unrealistic with today's generator technology?

Again, not saying this to troll or be passive aggressive. Literally throwing an idea out in front of other scientific minds and seeing what they have to say and critique.

The water would be the source of the energy. Steam would just be a conversion to transfer that energy to a generator that could then keep the boilers AND engine running.

Basically two primary circuits: 80-90% of the electricity goes to the engine, 20-10% goes back to the boilers to keep the water boiling and steam incoming, reduced to high pressure for high RPMs on the generator.

Not possible or feasible then?

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iull8yx wrote

Almost, but not exactly.

Basically create a self-sustaining reaction where once you get enough water boiling, you can pressurize the steam to turn a series of generators and then have those generators power both the boilers and the engine. So long as you have a way of replenishing the water in the tanks, steam is constantly being generated and pressurized to where it can make the generators spin at very high RPMs, and then the system just works round-the clock. Basically see if you can create a system where, say, 80-90% of the power goes to the engines, and 20-10% of that power goes to maintaining the heat of the boilers. Water can be added without the need for a pump using the ship's weight and opening valves from pipes beneath the water line, or pumps that don't need as much suction because of that principle.

Basically the water is the power source converted into a form of energy that's more easily pressurized.

It is interesting reading the reactions, though. In my mind this is part of what science is all about -- someone presents an idea, then a bunch of counter-ideas based on learning and experience are presented.

I really do appreciate the feedback. Just wanted to see what people thought and what the limitations would be.

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iulkk3z wrote

That's basically the idea. Use water from the ocean to periodically refill the boilers (since water below the waterline automatically generates a positive pressure towards the inside of the ship).

Basically think of it like this:

Water replenished periodically from outside > Boilers > Steam > Generators > Engines and boilers on separate circuits > Process repeats so long as you can keep replenishing water from the ocean into the boilers that are already heated.

The key thing would be to build generators that could generate enough electricity to maintain the heating of the boilers and run the engines simultaneously.

The volume of water in the ocean would be the source of power, provided you could generate enough electricity to keep the water boiling to keep the generators running.

A self-sustaining reaction once started.

Does that make sense? I feel like people keep thinking about this like a Tesla that has to be recharged with a cord. It's not that.

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iulk00d wrote

This is my thought process:

Pre-charged startup batteries to begin boiling process with water brought in from the ocean.

Water begins to boil and is replenished from the ocean periodically.

Steam held at high pressure turns generators that sustain a constant flow of power.

Constant flow of power powers electric engines, boilers and backup batteries. Also recharges startup batteries in case the entire system needs to be restarted.

Engine and boilers relies primarily on generators at this point, which rely on periodic refills from the ocean (though battery backups are installed if something fails).

Basically a self-sustaining reaction so long as the system is started once.

Am I crazy for this? I can see it working, but I haven't built a test model to see if it would actually work.

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TheNoobsauce1337 t1_iulimzn wrote

Couldn't you use electricity? Basically a system that uses the wires to heat the inside or outside of the tanks (like a space heater) with a startup battery configuration, which the generators can then recharge once the steam gets pressurized and flowing?

Not asking this passive aggressively. As I understand it, so long as you have sufficient power storage on hand, you could heat a boiler with electricity.

Even better, so long as the ship remains immersed in water, just keep the steam flowing once the initial heat systems have been up and running, and let the excess steam bleed off into the atmosphere once all necessary power storage systems are charged.

There's a previous comment here where I mentioned my thought process better. But that would be the gist of it.

I would think that it's possible, especially on cargo ships with extra space.

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