TheCloudBoy

TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9ou9i7 wrote

Ahh a mechanical engineer, you work at any of the companies in Manchester? Well you've gone through a number of the classes I have (thermodynamics, physics, probably fluid dynamics, etc.), so you should understand the complexities in numerical weather prediction and how it can vastly differ from simulations engineers utilize.

The better meteorologists in our field do read between the lines and leverage the basics taught in college, however the issue overnight differs from other scenarios where people just rip a model forecast like lemmings. Coming into this, there was decent confidence probabilistically that the 700 mb warm front clears into NH, so the ensemble blend of forecasts (or simulations) agreeing on this. When it becomes apparent 3-5 hours prior to snow starting that the front won't clear, well you're screwed.

I'm happy to rationally defend my thinking and explain complexities like a competent meteorologist should, but I won't sit here and let my above-average skillset be chalked up to some "dick sucking, righteous asshole".

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9okr82 wrote

Good question! You can submit storm reports to NWS Gray here: https://inws.ncep.noaa.gov/report/. A lot of our weather enters from the west (especially during the summer), so it's not surprising to hear the thought that the Monadnock Region destroys most of your potent weather. I fully expected the warm front to clear the southern half of the state and switch the Merrimack Valley to heavy sleet, swing and a miss.

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9og6gw wrote

If you can fire that report over to the NWS, that will be helpful in illustrating how narrow of a gradient the accumulations are in Nashua. Radar last night showed the band briefly stationary just north of the MA border before it moved east, so your report makes sense. For reference, that band was supposed to be 30-40 miles to your north

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9mp3su wrote

A good question! Your phone app is using some deterministic model or a "hodge-podge" of gridded products to deliver your forecast, all of which are likely low-resolution and a single forecast.

You immediately run into problems with that approach because we live in a state with many climates (which requires high resolution data), models have biases as they're run deeper into a forecast period, and single model forecasts don't show potential uncertainty like what I've been doing here the past few days.

The company I work for is developing a solution to this issue, I'll recommend whichever app takes our data in the future :)

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9mnn4h wrote

So that featured I drew into the grids was intentionally done in each forecast for this event based on meteorologist experience (a combo of going to school at Lyndon State and forecasting for the area for numerous years). The reason behind that swath of lower totals stems from SE winds forced over the Kinsman-Cannon Range & Garfield Ridge, which is called downsloping. This dries out & warms the environment locally, which is more hostile to adding up precipitation there in those regimes.

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9mm52q wrote

Ahh maybe not a bad call if you're up and about before sunrise! The margins are going to be razor thin in York County between steady sleet and not a ton of snow and heavy snow that adds up over 6" there. If you're south of Wells, I think you're fine regardless

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9mg3ia wrote

So this is a very good question, it's clear (and good that) you're aware of different model guidance and the trends. Here's my rational for the Seacoast/SE NH when making the map, excuse the numbered list and lengthy thought process!

  1. I do use high-resolution guidance, sometimes called "convection-allowing" models. This naming draws ire from many mets given all models account for convection in one sense or another. Lower-res global models parameterize it whereas short-range guidance have the horizontal & vertical resolution to explicitly resolve convective processes. We won't get into hydrostatic v. non-hydrostatic solvers, but that's important too.
  2. The slight southerly trend from 18Z yesterday to 18Z today is certainly of interest. It's important to utilize both positive snow depth change (PSDC) & static or dynamic snow ratio data for this forecast. The current 18Z suite (at 10:1 static ratios) has 7-10" through all of southern NH, but the PSDC is barely 3" and closer to my map.
  3. Why this difference and my map much lower then? I've closely inspected soundings and it's clear that the above-freezing warm nose makes it to Concord for several hours, keeping precip in/south of there sleet. In addition, the snow growth anywhere south of Laconia is atrocious, with the strongest lift well below the dendritic growth zone (DGZ). So even if we stay barely below freezing above our heads, snowflakes grow poorly and may even be partially melted, aiding to lower accumulations at the ground when its not sleeting. The PSDC maps illustrate this beautifully.
  4. The general rule of thumb is for every inch of liquid, 3" of sleet adds up (3":1"). The average liquid expected south & east of Concord is about 0.70". Let's assume at minimum 30-40% of the precip tonight is sleet and the rest averages to an abysmal 7-8":1" snow-liquid ratio. At most, you're looking at 1-3" of sleet/wet snow slop!
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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9l5qgs wrote

Lol I've seen that map and find the 3-6" gradient across SE NH is an absolute joke, I'm sorry. Telling anyone south & east of Concord that they can potentially see the high end of that range (6") is absolutely wrong. My "expect this much" range for Concord, Manchester, Londonderry, Exeter, Portsmouth, Nashua, & Durham is 3-4"

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TheCloudBoy OP t1_j9i0jgv wrote

For those curious about the NWS forecasts: it is eye-opening how different the latest NWS Gray NDFD snowfall forecast grids look compared to their afternoon package. Compare their forecast to mine, you'll notice it looks similar but 12 hours behind mine.

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