TheBlowersDaughter23

TheBlowersDaughter23 t1_j2acako wrote

Great, you gave me a number that I missed while skimming the report. But wouldn't it lower the bar on the right to the 9,600 mark as opposed to the 12,000 mark?

I dismiss the chart entirely because of its lack of substantial and current sources. We're looking at 2004 numbers for teachers, and pre-2002 numbers for priests (which I assume is from the John Jay report). A very different generation of people were active clergy members and active teachers in 2004 as opposed to now.

I'm sure the numbers can fluctuate due to the time elapsed, but this doesn't prove much considering that half of the sources don't work in the first place. Not to mention, less children attend church in the USA than school, so there'd have to be some mathematical adjustments made in order to accurately compare the two sets of data.

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TheBlowersDaughter23 t1_j29n0ac wrote

This graph doesn't show much other than bars that align with sources that don't really have hard numbers attached to them. I visited the sources.

  • Link 1 doesn't work

  • Link 2 is a report from 2004, surely you can find something a little more up to date? Comes from the US DOE, but the report is a culmination of different studies and offers no totaling statistics related to the numbers in this graph.

  • Link 3 is the same as link 2

  • Link 4 brings you to the homepage of Education Data Initiative, tried conducting a google search of the URL string and found nothing

  • Link 5 is a news article with 0 statistics relating to the parent topic and refers more to how fewer men are electing to become priests

  • Link 6 comes from a Catholic news source, suggests a bias. The report discussed in the article is a single source, surely there are more?

So all in all, this graph says nothing about abuse rates because the sources are essentially non-existent, save for 3, and only a single one is about teacher abuse. Furthermore, 0 of the source links compares the statistics, or even lay out the statistics in order for me to look at this chart and deduce that this might be true.

I'm not putting on a blindfold and saying teachers don't commit sexual abuse, but I'd love to see more substantial sources other than a screenshot from Gab with links no one bothered to look through.

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