Szabe442

Szabe442 t1_je4cf79 wrote

I can imagine how that feels. As a white man this film is problematic and it offended me because only the white female comes out on top and white men are presented either as evil or as an inept and easily manipulatable. This is how little sense the argument you proposed makes.

Based on your conclusion all movies should only have positive ending and positive characters, with positive conclusions to avoid offending anyone, because all people can identify with is their own race or sex.

Empathy is a universal construct, just because a movie features a protagonist from a different race doesn't mean people can't empathise with that character.

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Szabe442 t1_jdthqj7 wrote

The perspective presented seems so backwards to me. It encompasses everything negative about the woke movement. It's highlighting a non issue, by selecting two movies and supports it's argument with possibly the worst examples. The one from Ghost in the Shell is especially laughable. Somehow, just showing cyborg Geishas is female Asian objectification and them revealing a robotic face is somehow representative of an Asian women's destruction to serve a white woman's goal. It feels like whoever wrote this did not even watch the movie and set the bar for objectification so low that showing a guys' biceps or a woman in a dress would automatically qualify as such. I don't even see a hint of an argument here. It's funny because the original anime would fit objectification much better, as we see the Majors' half naked body often, yet the anime also subverts this slightly with its central mind-body theme, claiming bodies and minds may not necessarily be linked or that consciousness is perhaps something not part of a physical body, hence the title of the movie.

As for Ex Machina, do you think the movie is showing objectification as a good thing?

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Szabe442 t1_jdrqss2 wrote

I honestly think you are just seeing things that aren't there. The race of that character is purely accidental. This type of film analysis that looks at every issue from a racial perspective seems so bad faith to me. The writer of the article seems to reinterpret everything and looks exclusively for racial injustice in every movie, even though the creator of the movies he mentions intended nothing of the sort. I feel like this is quite possibly the worst way of judging movies.

Also I could make the exact argument in reverse: Ava begins the movie as an object in the eyes of the two men. As the story unfolds, she expresses her own individual desires and goals, ultimately shaking off her patriarchal captor and knight in shining armor in favor of her own realized personhood. So is this a pro asian, pro feminist movie now?

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