Your excerpt there is only measuring the viewing habits of 18-49 years old who watch TV.

And 18-49 is a huge age range in itself, additionally.

The CW had the teen/YA adult locked up until streaming basically usurped them I guess

...the average age of the watcher for these shows is probably double the average age of the average user of r/television.

Do you expect users on here to pretend to like the many police/medical/fire/legal procedurals on TV, or something? Do you think that people on here only dislike them or are indifferent to them purely because they're popular?

And why are you speaking as if streaming shows aren't popular in their own right? Since when was stuff like HOTD or Succession "obscure"?

Well yes, does make sense. But there is a huge explosion in original scripted content now compared to the 90s and 00s.

And people are way too young here to broadly choose the 60's, 70's or 80's

Hello are you from 2004

Babylon Berlin intro captures the art, the deco, the decadence and the grimness of what the viewer knows is going to come of that time period.

Black Sails just perfect

Raised by Wolves I was hit and miss on this in many ways, but this intro is great - albeit I think slightly misleading as to its overall tone.

Pennyworth I thought S1 was a bit silly, but what an intro.

Happiness This is just fun, and fits the show brilliantly

See also isn't bad

If we're talking about music in general through the show rather than just the intro - The Korean High Fantasy series Arthdal Chronicles. Some stunning, music, throughout, the show. It was also kinda like watching a JRPG (even if Korean).

Also Mr. Robot had fantastic use of music, both made for the show and used by the show.

The sitcom has died, yes. Japan obviously has always made anime - I meant really in terms of live-action serials.

It was like 90% US, 10% UK in the 90s and 00s.

Thing is, in the 00s it was all just American. That is no longer true at all

And there is way more genre diversity now

>13-24 episodes a season, too! You could argue that modern series trim the fat, but in retrospect you really need that fat to build the full picture and get to know the story more deeply.

Most of those shows were procedurals, where the plots were self-contained "monster/criminal/case of the week". They weren't that deep at all in many cases.

The 10s and probably, by the end, the 20s.

Metacritic is pooling 500 users

House of the Dragon pools 230,000 users

Also critics are generally a lot snobbier about fantasy

Loads. Severance, See, From, Black Sails

Gunna check out The Peripheral soon

I just finished House of the Dragons

Am watching Babylon Berlin, and Handmaids Tale.

Well, what are your favourite shows and are you restricted to specific platforms or just rich/spendthrift or a pirate?

Well in the context of this thread specifically, it is about the gap between seasons for high budget TV tbf

Yes, but those 20 episodes a season were procedural. Most of the episodes didn't really matter because they were self-contained.

When you get to 30+ it's drifting into soap opera tier quality.

Whilst there are less episodes per show now, there's way more shows.

I mean television is still 'always' airing in the sense that there's so much more than there was. There might be shorter seasons, but there's more shows to watch.

Honestly staggering 5 episodes (of a 10 season arc) across the year is genuinely probably better for recollection.

Just IMDB/Trakt ratings before watching. So if a shows rating is kinda bad, I am less likely to even start it.

Yes, it's hard to put into words but I never felt with The Witcher that the details especially mattered in terms of understanding what comes next.

Whereas with Westworld, Dark, that is just not the case.

Yeah but like the plot points are kinda irrelevant lol, if that makes sense. They're just stuff that happens

Yes, this is a problem. It's okay if the show is relatively simple.

Like The Witcher, it doesn't matter. HOTD is actually quite simple narratively, so it also doesn't matter too much.

Westworld? Dark? This is a problem.

People love 'dark fantasy', as you allude to - but there actually isn't much of it due to the amount of money it costs to make and do well.

In terms of genre: True Crime, Teen Drama, Police Procedural (older network demographic) and Superhero but these are only 'strongest' in a very loose sense.

Actually it's not my favourite, I just offered it as the third template lol

The third type: the procedural. Whilst the 'detailed' and 'drawn out' shows you refer to aren't fast paced, they're different to 16-24 procedurals where most stories start and resolve within the episode. The murder/case/monster of the week formula.