SchwarzeHaufen

SchwarzeHaufen t1_jaama3y wrote

Reply to comment by cyberdeath666 in [Homemade] Made an Anglicised "Philly Cheesesteak" using melted and unmelted cheddar, brown sauce and english mustard topping the minced beef, all on a baguette as that's what I had. by xander012

I feel you missed the point, though I did point out my preference for bell peppers and onions to him as well. That said, only the onions are technically traditional, bell peppers would be a variant off of the original.

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SchwarzeHaufen OP t1_j2dj7gq wrote

Reply to comment by marjanoos in A man goes before Saint Peter... by SchwarzeHaufen

If you are claiming its conquest in 1349 as the start of it being a Polish city, then I think the same principle and standard ought to apply to all other ownership changes. It ceased being Polish with the First Partition of Poland, it ceased being Austrian with the collapse of the Empire and the proclamation of the various Ukrainian republics, and so on and so forth.

Otherwise, your comment is a rather pointless exercise in nationalism. One which invites tears, given the population exchanges that were conducted after the Second World War to avoid any further claims and troubles.

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SchwarzeHaufen OP t1_j2czjbk wrote

Reply to comment by Helpful_Gas5073 in A man goes before Saint Peter... by SchwarzeHaufen

All of the places mentioned are the same place. The city's name and country changed a lot during the first half of the Twentieth Century due to a lot of wars happening there. Lemberg, Lwow, Lviv, Lvov, and Lemberik are all different names for one city. There are in fact many more names for the city.

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SchwarzeHaufen OP t1_j2ct18t wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in A man goes before Saint Peter... by SchwarzeHaufen

I actually have a joke about that:

So you remember uncle Shaun?

Big man, spoke with a heavy Austrian accent, constantly sloshed?

Well, he got his name when he was going through Ellis Island. You see, he had heard from his neighbour's wife that to succeed in America, you needed to have a good Anglo name like Cedric Wellington, so he had determined that he would change his name when he got there.

Standing in line, he started thinking of all the things he would do and all the things he would see, like visiting the Statue of Liberty! Oh, how nice that would be. But as he was doing this, he forgot to notice that he had come up to the immigration officer's desk.

'Name?'

Taken out of his day-dreaming, he got caught flat footed. Thinking desperately, he tried to remember the name he wanted and so to try to stall for time he blurted out. 'Ich habe es schon vergessen!'

And that is how he came by the name Shaun Fergusson.

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SchwarzeHaufen OP t1_j2af2cw wrote

Reply to comment by Snoo_90160 in A man goes before Saint Peter... by SchwarzeHaufen

True. I was more thinking about it from the point of view of absolute numbers. In 1900 the city had a population of 159.877 (this is the closest census we have), meaning that if only 0,1% there made it to 1945, you would have a hundred and sixty who never left. This is assuming that the population remained relatively similar through the Great War.

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SchwarzeHaufen OP t1_j2a9b5l wrote

Reply to comment by tdloader in A man goes before Saint Peter... by SchwarzeHaufen

As the other gentleman pointed out, they are all the same place. The reason this is funny though, is that it is perfectly plausible. 1918, Lemberg became Lviv, then it became Lwow after the Poles firmly took it from the Ukranians a few years later, then it became Lvov/Lviv and part of the Ukrainian S.S.R. when the Soviet Union took half of Poland in 1939, and then it became part of the German Reich after Operation Barbarossa, and then it finally went back to the Soviet Union in 1945.

A man could be born in Austria-Hungary, start school in the West Ukrainian People's Republic, graduate in the First Polish Republic, get married in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, have a child in the German Reich, and die in the Soviet Union all without ever leaving his hometown... And statistically, quite a few likely did.

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