SatanicNotMessianic
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j9ifagk wrote
Reply to comment by sloppyredditor in Pride flag set on fire outside NYC restaurant by QuicklyThisWay
The funny thing about a city like New York is that you actually have more privacy walking down a street with a half million other people than you have in a rural town.
No one in New York cares about you even enough to notice you. They walk past Naked Singing Cowboy without a sideward glance.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j87vn6y wrote
Reply to comment by black641 in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
I do think that people who cannot be fixed (although I do think that’s a bit of a loaded word) should be removed from a context where they can do harm, and I’m including other people in correctional facilities in that.
That being said, I don’t think that prisons should be places of torture. American prisons are pretty bad, in large part because making them into places of suffering and violence feels right to people because the people subjected to those conditions deserve it due to their actions.
If teaching someone job skills while having them study ethics with Chidi in the evenings helps make someone less likely to reoffend, then I think that’s clearly the path we should take, because punishment for punishment’s sake isn’t ethical.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j8753pt wrote
Reply to comment by SuperSaiyanCockKnokr in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
What do you think the overall cultural effect of that would be? Has capital punishment been broadly applied historically, and what was the environment like at the time?
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j873a1v wrote
Reply to comment by Martholomeow in Love of rare liquor lands Oregon officials in criminal probe by Caratteraccio
The article says that that’s what the people being investigated claim. Taking it for themselves is a less serious charge than reselling it for a profit.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j86mhkg wrote
Reply to comment by silasgreenfront in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
I think we are very much on the same page, and I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me about it.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j86ita4 wrote
Reply to comment by becksrunrunrun in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
I’m saying that if one of the purposes of system of justice is to reduce the impact of unjust behaviors (or crime) on society, then should we take the path with the highest payoff? Just theoretically, if we were to hand a stack of books by Rawls and Sandel and Parfitt to a rapist, and we were able to know with perfect knowledge that the person became a pure altruist and would never harm again, would they have “gotten away with it” (assuming no punishment occurred)?
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j86i3xr wrote
Reply to comment by empfindsamkeit in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
If your position is that the raison d’etre of addressing an exhibited criminal activity is to prevent re-offense, then we’re in full agreement. If your major concern is that re-offense may still occur because of our imperfect knowledge, that’s where we can research which approaches are statistically more likely to result in reducing recidivism, and I can agree with that.
For any class of offenses, we should take the approach that most probably reduces both the rate of reoffence by the individual and reduces the incidence of that offense socially. I would agree to that.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j86gjmh wrote
Reply to comment by silasgreenfront in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
We can dig through the efficacy of treatment programs, but just to get a feel for the kind of question we are trying to answer, how would you feel if we were to hand a book of moral philosophy to a rapist and were able to with perfect foresight tell that they would never rape again?
Would your first impression be that they got away with something, or that they were successfully reformed and do not require further punishment? I’m coming from a theory of justice angle here just for kicking things off.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j86ew94 wrote
Reply to comment by empfindsamkeit in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
Please expand on what you believe the approach to someone who has committed a rape should be, and why.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j8688yj wrote
Reply to comment by eamus_catuli in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
I am saying that scientifically reformative forms of justice result in reduced recidivism.
There’s basically three different motivations in criminal justice. The first is isolation - removing a dangerous member of society from an environment where they can do harm. That doesn’t mean the incarceration needs to be brutal, or even uncomfortable. You can encase them in carbonite or lock them in a room at the Ritz, because the goal of preventing additional harm is effected.
The second is restoration and reformation. Again, this runs the gamut from counseling to Clockwork Orange. This approach both prevents additional harm and restores an individual as a functioning member of society.
The third is punishment. Punishment itself has a few different motivations. The first is reformation, as in the above, but it does it’s job less efficiently than other, less ham-fisted methods. The second is disincentivizing other people from commuting a crime, either through fear of punishment or (in an economic sense) decreasing the net benefit of committing a crime such that a rational actor will decide not to do it. That one is a mixed bag in terms of effectiveness. The evidence does not support the proposal that harsher penalties reduce crime. The third is just balancing the karmic books - the idea that society must avenge itself violently against someone who caused crime, just because “they deserve it.” I’m pretty sure that last one lacks support from either a pragmatic or an ethical standpoint, but it does seem to be a major motivating factor in the American justice system.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j85w5w7 wrote
Reply to comment by eamus_catuli in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
If you could reduce the recidivism of rapists through counseling more than through jail, would you support counseling over jail?
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j85vvnm wrote
Reply to comment by pheisenberg in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124
That’s not how statistical analysis of correlation works. If chewing tobacco causes oral cancer rates to soar by a factor of ten, it doesn’t matter if only 35% of chewing tobacco users get oral cancer.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j77ygkb wrote
Reply to comment by momentum77 in From £130M to £1M: Brexit causes collapse in research funding by XaltotunTheUndead
The xenophobia leading up to the vote is what makes it funny.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j64uh1d wrote
Reply to comment by BaltimoreBadger23 in TIL to decide what measurement system America should use, John Quincy Adams took 3 1/2 years to produce a 268 page Report on Weights and Measures that ultimately concluded changing to the French metric system would be too difficult for the young nation. Congress took no action on the report. by iamveryDerp
> Absolutely the second worst Adams we’ve ever had as President!
-Thomas Jefferson
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j45elh7 wrote
Reply to comment by onewobblywheel in IBM shifts remaining US-based AIX dev jobs to India – source by sector3011
I worked on AIX systems when I was first getting into computer work in the 1990s. The software was okay (honestly, Solaris was better imo) but we were running a token ring network and that was buggy as hell. They called them “broken ring networks” for a reason.
But man, I really did love that RISC architecture. It made assembly language feel simple and elegant rather than the cuneiform that was the iteration of the CISC chips at the time.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j3zzk2s wrote
Reply to comment by Rage_Like_Nic_Cage in Northern California sees more rain while the south dries out by bluelotus214
Are they weighting the more recent data more strongly to account for the distributions to change in a given direction over time?
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j3nyc26 wrote
Reply to comment by hijinked in Virginia judge decreases punitive damages owed by Unite the Right organizers from $24 million to $350,000 by WhoIsJolyonWest
Which is exactly what the jury should be allowed to do. It should be illegal to allow a jury to proceed under a misunderstanding of the law.
If I were a juror, I would advise my fellow jurors of anything and everything I could discover relative to the case, but it should be unlawful for a court to lie by omission like this.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j2bogev wrote
Reply to comment by 8euztnrqvn in "You can use multiple words to describe something" Germany: by Nox_Dei
German humor is no joking matter.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_j2bnxr0 wrote
Reply to comment by RespectMyAuthoriteh in Thanks, without the woman as comparison I wouldn't have know how high 183cm is by backhandmarco
Americans will use any unit of measurement other than the metric system.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_ixw53mj wrote
Reply to comment by lonewolf420 in China regulator says Tesla recalls more than 80,000 cars by MrsSynchronie
Which car company do you work for?
SatanicNotMessianic t1_ixj92vq wrote
Reply to comment by N8CCRG in European Parliament declares Russia a state sponsor of terrorism by twotwo_twentytwo
I’m just picturing her thinking to herself “Haha, got ‘em.”
SatanicNotMessianic t1_iwf6i2c wrote
Reply to comment by pattydickens in Google to pay 40 states $392M in location-tracking settlement by AudibleNod
In some cases the states distribute the money to affected individuals. In other cases such as the tobacco Master Settlement Agreement, the money is used to offset the costs of medical care associated with smoking, as well as to fund public health anti-smoking campaigns. The MSA was a very broad-ranging agreement.
Some people think we should use the MSA as a blueprint for energy companies who used similar or identical strategies as the tobacco companies to block climate change information and legislation. It’s actually called the Tobacco Playbook, in which companies will use a range of strategies to sow seeds of doubt as well as pressure politicians to prevent reform.
Needless to say, that’s a fight we haven’t won yet.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_iuffe63 wrote
Reply to comment by volsfan1974 in There is always two type of girls at Halloween 😂 by oyunnbryn
The Dude : It's all a god damn fake, man. It's like Lenin said: you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh, you know...
Donny : I am the walrus.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_iu6wpwk wrote
Reply to comment by Crispy_p_bacon in The royal family will make me disappear for making this by Crispy_p_bacon
He makes a solid point.
SatanicNotMessianic t1_ja04xq3 wrote
Reply to comment by kslusherplantman in Measles case tied to Asbury University revival by Loverlee
Prayer has been disproven to work as per the Templeton study. The Templeton Foundation exists to fund research that demonstrates scientifically the validity of religious (particularly Christian, but they’re nominally nondenominational) belief.