Raffy87
Raffy87 t1_iy31s71 wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
I understand your point, I just don't agree with it.
Raffy87 t1_iy30pfo wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
statistics are real, but you can't conclude gender bias from voting results with no objective measures. If there were objective measures and the votes went against this then you would have a point, but there isn't.
Raffy87 t1_iy2yzf8 wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
because it is
Raffy87 t1_iy2xj5f wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
the only metric of their performance is the votes they receive, so if they get more votes they are better, that's the system
Raffy87 t1_ixr8nhr wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
>If we assume that acting is something that men and women can be equally good at
Why would you make that assumption? Unfortunately how 'good' they are at acting is entirely dependant on how they are judged, the two are linked. So if one group is judged to be better than the other, that's the reality of the situation, as unfair as you may deem it.
Raffy87 t1_ixr6ocw wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
We will have to agree to disagree, have a good night
Raffy87 t1_ixr6fgp wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
Well it's art, it can never be judged objectively and to call people's preferences bias is wrong, without preferences they wouldn't be able to choose between two performances. I agree the award is really most popular performance but I think most people know this so the name doesn't need changing.
Raffy87 t1_ixr5nua wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
I was merely pointing out that just because a population (the voters) don't come to a 50/50 result on something as subjective as other's acting performances doesn't mean there is an inherent bias.
Raffy87 t1_ixr528b wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
We are discussing people voting on their preference of art
Raffy87 t1_ixr4usj wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
>you don't need to be unfairly prejudiced
that is the definition of bias.
We are talking about awards achieved through votes, so yes, most popular wins. No it's not fair, if it was everyone would get an award but then what's the point?
Raffy87 t1_ixr3vrg wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
For bias you have to be 'unfairly prejudiced' for or against someone or something, simply preferring the performance of one person over another does not constitute bias.
Raffy87 t1_ixr2mpr wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
If I vote for a woman does that mean I'm bias against men? because that's what you're implying
Raffy87 t1_ixr251h wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
better as in gets the most votes, if this were to happen it would essentially be pitting the best actor against the best actress, if more people prefer the performance of someone that doesn't mean they're bias against the other because of their gender
Raffy87 t1_ixr1l6o wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
edited it so you may understand better
Raffy87 t1_ixr0a43 wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
If 80% of the winners were female, is it not possible that they they gave a better performance compared to the men they were pitted against in those years?
Raffy87 t1_ixqy4xz wrote
Reply to comment by Anatar19 in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
I was referring specifically to gender bias
Raffy87 t1_ixqw3fo wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
You can't even make that assumption as you're talking about people's opinions not random outcomes, its entirely possible one side would get more votes on a consistent basis. If anything the main 'bias' at play would be from the previous results, as if one side was seeming to dominate there would be an incentive to vote for the other just to even things out.
Raffy87 t1_ixque4l wrote
Reply to comment by JohnTDouche in 'The Crown' Star, Emma Corrin, Calls for Gender-Neutral Acting Awards by chrisbokiul
just because the result isn't 50/50 doesn't mean it is because of bias
Raffy87 t1_jddp0gj wrote
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no problem