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PokebannedGo t1_jd95fxu wrote

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PokebannedGo t1_j9wdzvw wrote

No problem

Most people hate on machines, so keep that in mind

Your muscle is only going to get bigger if you push it

If I could bicep curl 100lbs on the bicep machine, my bicep isn't going to grow until I can bicep curl 100lbs+ in free weights. Bicep curling free weights of 75lb is working out other muscles in the arm but not going to make my bicep any bigger because it can already curl 100lb. I wouldn't be able to curl 80lbs not because of my bicep but because of the other muscles required for the free weight.

The debatable part is that you shouldn't be able to bicep curl 100lb and not be able to pick up a 50lb dumbell and curl it with free weights. If you're spending your time working out, doing a complex exercise can be more beneficial. Also you're working your stabilizer muscles which you can't on a machine.

Machines are a tool, and you have to be smart with them.

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PokebannedGo t1_j9vz47v wrote

Muscles are all about work.

If you went to the gym and only did bench or only did pec fly, you'd get a larger chest with pec fly in the same amount of time. Because you're putting more work into your chest.

It's pec fly, big chest small arms, bench, small chest big arms.

But that's not saying that bench can't give you the same chest eventually

Because, when you get good at bench, you can focus on benching more with your chest, working your chest out more than you would if you're a beginner or novice using mostly your arms and shoulders to lift.

Best is to do both if you want a complete body

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PokebannedGo t1_j9v9402 wrote

I'm 6 ft 135lb and I can pec fly 135lb for 8 reps.

I don't try to bench press, but I very much doubt I could bench 135lbs. It's not because of my chest muscles but because of stabilizer muscles and all the other muscles required to bench press.

A pec fly machine targets your pectoral muscles specifically. Lifting the 135lb is basically all pectoral muscle with the machine.

So if I didn't do the pec fly machine and just benched like 70lbs I'm not going to be pushing my pectoral muscles to their limits. I will be failing to get the weight up because of the other muscles.

Have you ever done a bicep curl machine? You can curl a lot more weight on it rather than trying to free weight curl. It's the same idea.

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PokebannedGo t1_j9uwnms wrote

Agree. I selected pectoral muscles and assumed it would say pec fly. Yet it says bench press. Yes, bench press is going to work out your chest, but very few people are going to be able to work out their chest with bench press without a lot of time working on the other muscles to get your chest as the limiting factor.

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PokebannedGo t1_j2e4wan wrote

That's because the "opposite sound" doesn't make sense.

If a cat makes a happy meow, the noise canceling headphones does not make a sad meow noise.

The happy meow makes a sound wave

Think of these waves like waves in the ocean

If you were to send the exact same wave from the beach towards the ocean waves, imagine what's going to happen.

Both waves hit together at their peaks and you'll notice that after that point, the waves that would reach dry sand will be much lower in height.

So it's the same wave just coming at the opposite direction

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