ParticleDetector

ParticleDetector t1_jebp5td wrote

Hmmm I think that’s because you value fresh map exploration very highly.

There are many other aspects of the game, like interaction (fusion and ultra hand etc) and plot progression, that people are interested in way more than the map itself. I think there are also fans who would rather it be still Hyrule and see what they can do differently with the same map + new land masses.

I think it’s ok for you to like new maps, but I’m not sure if your use of ‘lazy’ is warranted all things considered.

I mean let’s say, they give Link all the powers from BOTW but throw him in a new map, would you prefer this over new powers in semi-old map with new land masses? What if the old map has changed in their locale? Or is the location that it is hyrule what is putting you off?

Of course the best case scenario for you is new map and new powers.

But you know, exploration isn’t the same for everyone, and maybe the fans you think are defending it for being lazy aren’t actually caring so much that it has to be an entirely new map, but may even be excited to explore the same Hyrule they love in a very new way.

I also think you should consider that development for new mechanics such as this is actually quite intensive, and a lot of focus is placed there. And these new mechanics have to interact with the land in new ways such that the same ‘map’ you see has to be changed in code to fit the new game.

The examples you gave like Far Cry and Spider-Man, you say they changed things up a bit. Do you think TOTK mechanics is equivalent to ‘change things up a bit’? So in this case are they fair examples to use as comparison?

I’m speaking from a gamedev perspective here, not as a Zelda fan, because I’m also interested in the overall design decisions and direction Nintendo made.

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ParticleDetector OP t1_iy2mpmy wrote

Haha! That makes a kind of sense! So…you see more suns in the daytime than at night?

And this goes down the rabbit hole of

  1. Nights where there are no moon - you see more stars because the moon occupies space in the sky

  2. Days where the sun and moon are in the sky together - you see least stars because now there are two bodies taking up some space in the sky.

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ParticleDetector OP t1_iy2esm5 wrote

I think I’m seeing a few things happening in the replies.

  1. People thinking I’m using ‘sun’ interchangeably for every star out there regardless if they have planet/s orbiting it.

  2. People thinking I’m using ‘Sun’ the proper noun, instead of of ‘sun’ the common noun. (But I didn’t capitalize ‘sun’ anyway.

  3. People who somehow have not come across the usage of ‘sun’ the common noun in popular media (I’m just so not sure of this one because it’s so common that it’s improbable they missed it.)

Edit : 4. People perhaps thinking that I’m referring to other stars as a sun relative to where we are, when it’s a ‘sun’ relative to the planets orbiting that star. And again common usage in popular media.

I’m as perplexed as you are.

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ParticleDetector OP t1_iy2b13c wrote

Since we aren’t talking about the Sun (proper noun version), are you talking about using ‘sun’ (the common noun version) as a replacement for any star, even though it’s not orbited by planets?

If so then yeah that’s it’s weird.

But isn’t ‘sun’ (as a common noun) already being used for a rather long time to describe stars with planets, in popular works, and have such characters in such works mention is as the ‘sun’ (common noun) of that planet etc?

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone here yet say that ‘sun’ is a straight synonym for ‘star’, especially lonely stars with nothing orbiting it.

Like, if you see binary stars and nothing else in that system, we don’t call those ‘suns’ right?

I think you assumed that I was using ‘sun’ as a synonym for every single star?

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ParticleDetector OP t1_iy0n9i8 wrote

Popular media has made it such that some people do call other stars ‘sun’ though.

e.g

Krypton’s red sun

tattoine’s twins suns

Romulan sun

Etcetc

So much so that I think many people would imagine standing on an alien planet, looking up at their version of the star the planet is orbiting, and casually say ‘damn the sun is sure hot today’.

Edit : I’m not saying people are calling every star as ‘suns’ interchangeably, I’m saying people call the star a planet is orbiting as the ‘sun’ of that planet.

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ParticleDetector t1_it48hqq wrote

The two figures are furiously punching at each other. Beards long, strange clothes torn. One with a full head of hair, the other bald. But none of them look tired or injured. If you look closely maybe you’ll notice a bit of blood when one of them gets punched, but when he turns back his head, it’s not there.

Trick of the eye probably?

Anyway they’ve been affectionately known as the ‘Fighting Hobos of Central Park’ for the longest time. They’re there all the time, duking it out.

They’re not always in the same part of the park, but they never seem to be anywhere but between Umpire Rock and Hernshead.

Some people have tried watching them for a whole day, but get tired after a few hours.

Others have tried approaching them but always change their mind when they get close. Even the police! That’s why they’ve never been stopped.

Then if you ask your parents, they’ll say ‘What? They’re still there? It can’t be the same two people, they were there when I was a kid!”

And if you ask your grandparents, they’ll say “Oh yes I’ve seen them before, must be some copycats trying to re-enact the ‘Central Park Fisticuffers’ from back when my grandad, your great great grandpa, used bring your great great grandma there for dates.”

And everybody seems to know somebody who has heard of them before. But nobody seems to be bothered that they’re there all the time just punching away. Occasionally a drop kick or two. Maybe a headlock.

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4:51 PM August 3 2022

“Hey Misters”.

The two men stopped mid punch, not having been spoken to in centuries.

A little girl was holding out a bottle of soda.

“Don’t you get tired playfighting all the time? Do you need a drink”

Both of the scruffy looking men looked at her.

The bald man asked the other one “How is she talking to us, the warding spell lasts for four hundred…”

Whitebeard lightly slapped him across the head.

“You fool! Look up there behind you!”

The bald one looked warily at him, as if it were a trick leading to be sucker punched, when he saw the strange, tall buildings beyond the trees, behind the other guy.

“Look behind me? Look behind YOU! What are those???”

Whitebeard cursed “Damn it! There’s nothing wrong with the Warding spell! It HAS been four hundred years! If only you had the brains to admit that rock was part of the agreement…”

Sweat rolling of his head the bald one went “NO!” I told you to keep yourself at that end! I built my house there at least three hundred years before you even ‘bought’ this ‘piece of land’ from who knows who? Look what you’ve done! An entire City has sprung up around us! Where’s your ‘territory’ now eh? And my house…”

He turned to look behind him, where Umpire rock was.

“my house is gone!!! My stuff! Oh brgggrrrhhlfmmmh I’m gonna get you for this!”

“Hey misters” said the little girl “Why don’t you take a break and …”

“Shut up!” Said the two men in unison.

The bald one took out a parchment from a still intact pocket (how?) and started reading from it.

There was a brief pulse of energy in the air that expanded, just enough to cover the area between Umpire Rock and Hernshead area.

The little girl’s eyes glazed over, and she shrugged and walked away, the two men having resumed decking each other in their faces.

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