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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_iubosax wrote

> (Reply above is from NJ) The amount of outsiders that has shown up to influence the election of an official that is supposed to represent our state of PA has really got me questioning the usefulness of having a Federal upper congressional chamber … and maybe we should just get rid of the Senate and only have the House of Representatives.

Gotta love how you don't even bother disputing the inherent partisan nature of the positions espoused by the LWVP and instead try to deflect and distract instead.

Here's a great word for you to learn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_itzn0ht wrote

> Actions speak louder than words. You only have hate speech.

You're the one who's full of hate. I've said nothing hateful.

I've only pointed out that the problems plaguing Philly are due to Democrats because they're the ones in charge and have been for the entire lives of most of the people that live there.

> You lack the ability to make any changes to the world in a positive way, so you just whine.

Sure I can. I can make my voice heard and vote out loser corrupt Democrats.

> If you want things to change, then change it without hate speech and violence.

What hate speech? What violence?

You're delusional. I've said nothing hateful and never advocated violence.

I think you're projecting. I bet you're one of those violent rioters that looted Philly in the BLM protests riots.

> Until then you serve no purpose. You are part if the problem. All your responses have proven my point. Your anger is an energy that should be redirected toward a better world not a bitter life. Put up or shut up. How many people have you helped today? Yesterday? Last week, month, year? None? Why? What's stopping you. If you care so much get involved more than being upset and angry. It's a waste of energy.

Wowza. You're such a sad and hateful person. Go outside and get some sunshine. I bet you're scared of that too.

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_itzky6o wrote

Fair minded people watching that debate: "*That was painful to watch and I have serious concerns about Fetterman being able to serve in the Senate for six year."

Democrats with their head's in sand: "*Na-na-nah! I can't hear you! I don't care! I'll will vote for a vegetable if it's got a D on it!"

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_itzkoh0 wrote

> 100 years? Look at the history of Philly and you'll see that the Rs controlled the city for more than half of the 20th century.

The last Republican mayor of Philly ended his term in 1952: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Philadelphia

Regardless of the state of the city at that time, you're saying that in 70 years the Democrats could not fix it? Sheesh.

> I guess you want to go back to "good ol'days" when Philly cops would randomly beat people, take payoffs, with no consequences?

I have no clue where you're inferring that from.

> Whiners whine, doers do.

That's the problem. The do-nothing DA in Philly is not putting criminals in prison. And he's part of the corrupt Democrat machine that controls that city.

> You obviously don't know your history and most likely don't live in the city or possibly even the state or country for that matter.

More baseless accusation. I accuse you of being a Japanese manga high school girl. Hey it's easy when you just make shit up eh?

> Run for office in the city, give solutions. If you don't have any solutions, sit down and shut up because you're part of the problem.

Whatever happened to, "Make your voices heard"? Oh, I guess only speech that leftist idiots agree with is acceptable.

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_itz1efk wrote

> What a crock of useless BS. If they really want to do something, pass gun control laws that prevent anyone with a criminal record from buying not only guns, but ammo as well. Then find a way to raise the minimum wage to current financial standards....$15.25 an hour.

So people resort to crime because minimum wage is too low? What a dumb take.

People resort to crime because there is no consequence.

> They have no solutions only fingers to point at someone to blame. I've got a couple of fingers to flip them. Another pointless GOP bill to do anything but solve a problem. The Philadelphia DA isn't the problem, the lack of solutions is the problem.

The Philly DA refuses to charge people because it's the "wrong people" committing the crimes. He's 100% at fault here.

> If the state has no solutions to provide the DA then they should stay in Harrisburg and shut up. The Republicans want someone to blame then they should take a long hard look in a mirror at themselves. It's been falling apart since Reagan in January 1981 and crashed on January 6th 2021. What's happening is simply the echo of 4 decades of collapse.

Phily has had Democrat single party (... corrupt ....) rule for something like hundred years. There's only one party that's been fucking up Philly and it ain't the Republicans.

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_itkp7ck wrote

> We are seeing increased enthusiasm for voting this election season for a number of reasons, especially because issues like abortion care baby killing, public education funding teacher's union kickbacks, gun safety control and confiscation, and more are on the ballot.

FTFY. Non-partisan my ass...

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_isjbpjp wrote

My definition of a "normal conversation" is one where I speak to a person, their ears hear my words, and then they understand those words.

Fetterman plainly fails that test and anyone that says his stroke is no big deal is lying to themselves.

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_is21orm wrote

> I'm asking you what numbers you'd find acceptable. And yeah, considering the low rate of fraudulent votes, 1,000 rightful votes prevented vs 1 fraudulent vote prevented really doesn't seem out there.

Again, if people truly want to vote then they will arrange their affairs to do so. If they can't then tough beans. It's never going to be exactly the same level of convenience for everybody anyway. The only way to make it truly uniform is to have a single defined process involving showing up at the polls and presenting your ID.

The only acceptable amount of fraud is zero. You seem to think that there's some acceptable level of fraud in order to expand the convenience to some subset of the population. I disagree.

Have a nice day sir.

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_is1vnip wrote

> What, rise from a deathbed?

Are you suggesting the dead should be able to vote? Sounds very Democratic...

> Quit their job?

Polls in the commonwealth are open from 7am to 8pm. If you're in line then you can vote. Nobody has to quit there job to vote and just because it may be more inconvenient to vote earlier or later in the day or rearrange you schedule to do so is not justification alone for accepting the extra risks of those processes.

> It's important to remember that when voting in America was started, only a minority of Americans qualified to vote: white landowning males. That part's important, because farm hands and factory workers mostly didn't qualify. They didn't need the time off work to go into town, because they couldn't vote. Right up until 1828, the majority of voters wrote their own schedule.

Yes and the people that furthered those polices were Democrats. Anything short of showing up to the polls is more likely to be gamed. Mail-in ballots can be lost, modified, mutilated, duplicated. There's plenty of issues that could happen.

> The problem is that process is being twisted into one of those systems that prevents more rightful votes than it does fraudulent.

Mail-in voting is objectively less secure than showing up to the polls. That's indisputable.

If you want to argue about how many less people would be voting then quantify it. You're just making things up without any actual statistics to back it up.

Would it even have an impact on the outcome? Would the "wrong" people be voting or not voting? Would it matter at all?

> Is this process doing us any good if a thousand citizens are disenfranchised for every fraudulent vote prevented?

Haha. You really think it's 1000 mail-in voters that would not vote for every one potential instance of fraud?

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PM_ME_MURPHY_HATE t1_is1lzru wrote

> But that aside: why? Why are you fine with disenfranchisement? Why do you want to see rightful voters presented with obstacles that prevent them from exercising their right?

There will always be disparities in people's access to the polls. It's never 100% uniform. A city dweller can walk down the block whereas someone living in the countryside might have to drive 15 miles. Ditto for people's time constraints, whether they have a baby sitter, whether they can go in the morning, or after work, or anything else.

I consider it more important to have a process that is objectively harder to be gamed or manipulated more important than making it slightly more convenient. If those people actually care about voting then they will find a way to vote.

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