Yeah, always sucks to see a cool old power station bite the dust. Sure would’ve been a cool museum but i imagine it would’ve been hard to really convert into any sort of museum.

It was an older, smaller coal fired power plant, only producing 568MW. The plant was decommissioned in 2011, demolition began in 2015 and was completed in 2016.

The terminology for DRAP lines would be as follows; Direct rolling, annealing, and pickling.

Yeah, I’d say i don’t think we will ever see that plant come to fruition. They did all the ground work to prep for it. When PTTGCA’s investment partner Daelim Chemical USA of South Korea withdrew everything kind of went cold. Nothing new has really been reported on in the last year or so.

There’s a really bad one right on Craft Ave in Oakland before the intersection with the blvd of the Allies. Furthest right hand lane. Looks like a damn sinkhole

ACHD has the right to shut down Clairton Coke Works if they deviate from the agreement. That’s what they have the right to do. You try to run that plant without No.2 or No.5 Control Rooms and they shut them down. Period. It’s either you run with those plants on, or you don’t produce at all and you take your plant to idle hot until you conform with the agreement. That’s the consent decree they signed. They continuously show no intent on improving things, they will shut them down.

Have you ever been inside that plant? Do you even know what goes on in the day to day basis there?

People complained about Shenango Coke on Neville Island for years and now it’s gone. The air quality hasn’t changed since it’s closure.

You wanna say ACHD isn’t doing shit but what has the EPA and DEP done for heavy industry who run amok in our country?

Dow Chemical since 2000 has paid $273M in fines but made $11.4B in 2021 alone despite having one the most prolific offenses ever recorded in our country. They knowingly poisoned our waterways and got a slap on the wrist, if that!

They make US Steel look like innocent children in comparison.

So please chuckie512, tell us with all your holy Reddit power might what you would do to fix this problem. You are so adamant you know what you need to do, put your money where your mouth is and show us!

I’m so tired of people spouting on the internet armchair QBing thinking their shit don’t stink and they have the be all to end all solutions to fix the problem.

You should consider applying for a job with ACHD since you clearly think you can do better. You must have all the answers that no one else has. So please, show us the way!

But hey, what do the people who work everyday on fixing this mess know?? But no, apparently they don’t because some fucking anon on Reddit who read a couple articles clearly knows much more because GASP told them so.

No, my point is that no matter what the fuck US Steel does people will always say it’s “not good enough.”

You can try to ignore the cold hard facts all you’d like, doesn’t change anything. Clairton Coke Works is not even the No.1 Polluter in Allegheny County according to ACHD themselves.

That plant provides a shit load of well paying jobs that supports a lot of families. 1-3 batteries are shutting down in the spring anyways. People won’t be happy until it’s gone and another EPA superfund brown field eyesore for people to bitch about.

If it was that easy, USS would have shut Clairton and the corresponding plants years ago. The reality is that these 3 Mon Valley plants are US Steel’s cheapest cost per ton producer of steel in the company’s portfolio. Even cheaper then the new state of the art Big River Steel at Osceola, AR.

It being cheaper to pay for the steel workers healthcare by forcing the plants to close vs it being open is not realistic. Take away the tax base Clairton Coke Works provides and would the city be able to survive without falling back into Act 47 dependency from the state?

Braddock is still in Act 47 dependency even with Edgar Thomson Plant operating in it’s city limits. What is going to replace this enormous tax base? Our air is “cleaner” now. But our local economies tank to levels not seen since likely the 1980’s and big steel’s permanent collapse. How many of these former steel mill towns have been able to recover 40 years later?

Clairton Mill closes, backstreet burger probably closes. speedway closes. It’s a ripple effect that goes beyond just the plant itself. These businesses were not put there to sustain just off of the city itself.

Are the local communities going to pay for the railroad workers retirement too because the mill was forced to shut down? They were dependent on the mill to make a living, too. Local owner operator truck drivers delivering products or hauling products out of the mills?

As much disdain it may bring you to see these plants operational, they are a critical part of the Mon Valley’s ecosystem. You can’t just replace 3,000 well paying jobs overnight.

If you have a better idea on how to curtail emissions from the 17 PM2.5 contributors in the Mon Valley may I suggest you apply for a job with ACHD. They seem quite confident that things are moving in a positive direction.

https://www.alleghenycounty.us/News/2021/Health-Department-2021/6442473822.aspx

Copied straight from the ACHD website, with link below:

“Note: On April 15, 2022, the Allegheny County Health Department learned that for the second year in a row, the county has met federal air quality standards for fine particulate matter (PM2.5) at all eight air quality monitors. This table shows the highest air quality concentrations recorded at any site over the most recent three years (based on maximum three-year averages), given by pollutant and averaging duration.”

https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Health-Department/Programs/Air-Quality/Monitored-Data.aspx

This is the 2nd time ever, prior to 2020 that these monitors have met the federal standard since their inception in 1999. Also of note is that only the Liberty monitor in all those years prior had prevented the county from reaching those standards. If things are as bad people claim they are, achieving such a goal would not be happening.

US Steel as in agreement with ACHD staggers production on inversion days. Each coke battery will shut down operations for a few hours throughout the day instead of all operational batteries continuously pushing and charging ovens. This is in an attempt to help limit the PM2.5 emissions. Usually it’s 4 hour increments on each battery unit.

What about Edgar Synder? The guy hasn’t aged at all.