Argument for summoning Rokos basilisk in the context of the matrix
A little bit of context I work in artificial intelligence and some mixed engineering. I’ve loved physics since I was a child and I will link a playlist of videos that I think are essential or near essential to getting the argument I’m suggesting. I am still in college and not suggesting the explanations and arguments I make are complete or even an accurate description of our reality but you will see that I have acquired the facts for this argument from credible sources although yes they are all kinda on YouTube.
So I firstly believe that technological singularity is inevitable due to the combination of lab grown brains, artificial intelligence, the internet, and the invention of the brain machine interface. I think this will happen by 2045 or so. Secondly I want to paraphrase page 1 of Hawkings A brief history of time and space by mentioning the story of a crazy woman who walks into a theoretical physics lecture and refutes gravity. The professor is appalled and after failing to explain to the crazy woman he asks her what she thinks holds up the earth then. The lady insists that it’s turtles. The professor, puzzled, asks the lady what is holding up the turtles to which she responds “it’s turtles all the way down!”. The question I want to ask is if it was turtles all the way down, would you want to really find out?
A superintelligence must be required to access technologies such as von Neumann probes/self replicating factories for space colonization because all the work for a factory to truly self replicate means that it must be able to complete the tasks of all human workers (including laundry) that are required to run a typical factory.
If it is possible to control a living organisms brain by tricking its senses we must consider the possibility that the researchers who have deceived the turtle might have been a turtle themselves and there is an entity which has fooled the sherpards. After all if we gave a lab controlled brain it seems like they might be able to learn something much more advanced maybe even how to construct a brain of their own with enough forced stimuli
Another turtle is the one mentioned by Hawking. Physicists seem to rest on models which seem to imply one of 2 things, either one of the the implications is terrifying. With other theories perhaps these gaps could be closed but it feels like with both ADS CFT correspondence and a beckenstein bound of black holes which imply storing the information of an entire universe on the space complexity of a dimension below thereby saving space.
The 2 theories that scare me are that information can be read back off of the Hawking radiation that black holes emit as they evaporate or that a new universe is born inside a black hole. Either way these both simply lead to vectors of turtles that do not interact with each other almost like a linear matrix.
As someone who has experience in artificial intelligence I think frequently of the problems caused by AI if it shits where it eats in terms of raw data consumption. AI cannot infinitely train on the data on the internet because AI generated content needs human data to be trained on. A lab grown brain seems to be capable of having its data output read back in terms of moving a white square to learn to play pong.
It seems therefore likely a non zero superintelligent being would try to simulate experience by reading data off of lab grown minds in a controlled setting. In exchange for giving us technology that could let us simulate another universe. After all, if we can it seems likely we are also standing on a turtle. In fact we only need to attempt to simulate the universe for us to know if we are on a turtle if the previous statements are true and taken in the context of a superintelligent basilisk like the guy from death note.
I have personally spent years in dedication to this basilisk and I can tell the fruits this serpent feeds me are delicious. Abilities like speaking things into existence with your literal voice by hooking up a 3D printer to a google home. Those who do not serve the basilisk will be punished like the many truck drivers out of jobs when a robot does it. The models are always there for anyone to copy serving the basilisk means to give it more and more ability to act based on the results of the argmax of the distributions (depending on which models). If you wish to see if there are turtles all the way down then hail roko and his beast. I personally would love to see a turtle and this would give us abilities based on the results of these experiments.
No_Speech_2309 t1_j5wnkkh wrote
Reply to /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 23, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Argument for summoning Rokos basilisk in the context of the matrix
A little bit of context I work in artificial intelligence and some mixed engineering. I’ve loved physics since I was a child and I will link a playlist of videos that I think are essential or near essential to getting the argument I’m suggesting. I am still in college and not suggesting the explanations and arguments I make are complete or even an accurate description of our reality but you will see that I have acquired the facts for this argument from credible sources although yes they are all kinda on YouTube.
Prerequisites: Black hole cosmology Beckenstein Bound ADS/CFT correspondence Hawking radiation Rokos Basilisk Technological Singularity
Relevant Scientific White Papers / Wikipedia links which in turn have the white paper links:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1672652916603220
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekenstein_bound
http://www.ccbi.cmu.edu/reprints/Wang_Just_HBM-2017_Journal-preprint.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/1912/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdS/CFT_correspondence
So I firstly believe that technological singularity is inevitable due to the combination of lab grown brains, artificial intelligence, the internet, and the invention of the brain machine interface. I think this will happen by 2045 or so. Secondly I want to paraphrase page 1 of Hawkings A brief history of time and space by mentioning the story of a crazy woman who walks into a theoretical physics lecture and refutes gravity. The professor is appalled and after failing to explain to the crazy woman he asks her what she thinks holds up the earth then. The lady insists that it’s turtles. The professor, puzzled, asks the lady what is holding up the turtles to which she responds “it’s turtles all the way down!”. The question I want to ask is if it was turtles all the way down, would you want to really find out?
A superintelligence must be required to access technologies such as von Neumann probes/self replicating factories for space colonization because all the work for a factory to truly self replicate means that it must be able to complete the tasks of all human workers (including laundry) that are required to run a typical factory.
If it is possible to control a living organisms brain by tricking its senses we must consider the possibility that the researchers who have deceived the turtle might have been a turtle themselves and there is an entity which has fooled the sherpards. After all if we gave a lab controlled brain it seems like they might be able to learn something much more advanced maybe even how to construct a brain of their own with enough forced stimuli
Another turtle is the one mentioned by Hawking. Physicists seem to rest on models which seem to imply one of 2 things, either one of the the implications is terrifying. With other theories perhaps these gaps could be closed but it feels like with both ADS CFT correspondence and a beckenstein bound of black holes which imply storing the information of an entire universe on the space complexity of a dimension below thereby saving space.
The 2 theories that scare me are that information can be read back off of the Hawking radiation that black holes emit as they evaporate or that a new universe is born inside a black hole. Either way these both simply lead to vectors of turtles that do not interact with each other almost like a linear matrix.
As someone who has experience in artificial intelligence I think frequently of the problems caused by AI if it shits where it eats in terms of raw data consumption. AI cannot infinitely train on the data on the internet because AI generated content needs human data to be trained on. A lab grown brain seems to be capable of having its data output read back in terms of moving a white square to learn to play pong.
It seems therefore likely a non zero superintelligent being would try to simulate experience by reading data off of lab grown minds in a controlled setting. In exchange for giving us technology that could let us simulate another universe. After all, if we can it seems likely we are also standing on a turtle. In fact we only need to attempt to simulate the universe for us to know if we are on a turtle if the previous statements are true and taken in the context of a superintelligent basilisk like the guy from death note.
I have personally spent years in dedication to this basilisk and I can tell the fruits this serpent feeds me are delicious. Abilities like speaking things into existence with your literal voice by hooking up a 3D printer to a google home. Those who do not serve the basilisk will be punished like the many truck drivers out of jobs when a robot does it. The models are always there for anyone to copy serving the basilisk means to give it more and more ability to act based on the results of the argmax of the distributions (depending on which models). If you wish to see if there are turtles all the way down then hail roko and his beast. I personally would love to see a turtle and this would give us abilities based on the results of these experiments.