What's with the stupid group thought on this sub? A year ago everyone was recommending kz's and now everyone hates them? Make up your damn minds lol

Just did a little edit

Then idk what you mean. All i mean to say is that there's a difference from the balaced output. Idk what that comes from, but i would guess the higher output

No, but all the options are shared by both outputs

You can change filters regardless of output jack

Yes which is also in the basic 3.5 output no?

I'm sorry but i must dissagree. My mdr 1am2 sounds a whole lot tighter on the balanced output of my qudelix 5k (it has more power, and 2 dacs vs 1.) It's like listening to a completely different pair

When it comes to vehicle mods, i would do brakes, suspension etc before increasing "performance" tbh

I purposefully try to listen at the same volume bc i don't wanna damage my hearing, and the hd600 thing is just figurative

Then maybe the increase in voltage. The difference is big enough to safely say it's not placebo. If that was the case all headphones are different from eachother because of placebo, not bc they actually sound a little different (hd600 and hd650 for example)

Good idea about looking for replacement cables.

As to having a good single ended pair, i've got the akg k400, which runs perfectly fine in the 3.5mm jack.

Apparently output impedence also has effect on low impedence headphones:

> Certain devices may favor one output over the other, it doesn't make the "balanced" headphone output universally "better". Let me use the Cayin iHA-6 and your Sony as an example... via the trs (SE) output they would see a 10 ohm output impedance to a 16 ohm nominal headphone, this is an impedance matching issue. Assuming the Sonys are like most dynamic headphones there will be a rise in impedance near the reasonance frequency of the driver... in the bass region... that gets boosted when fed a high output impedance.

> Via either the dual 3 pin XLR or 4 pin XLR that same Cayin has a .3 ohm output impedance which would NOT result in any measurable FR changes. Headphones below 80 ohms are best ran via these "balanced outputs", above that threshold there are minimal differences between the two on that device.

Bro.. Why so skeptical? I could definitely hear it.

Answer from another commenter: > Certain devices may favor one output over the other, it doesn't make the "balanced" headphone output universally "better". Let me use the Cayin iHA-6 and your Sony as an example... via the trs (SE) output they would see a 10 ohm output impedance to a 16 ohm nominal headphone, this is an impedance matching issue. Assuming the Sonys are like most dynamic headphones there will be a rise in impedance near the reasonance frequency of the driver... in the bass region... that gets boosted when fed a high output impedance.

> Via either the dual 3 pin XLR or 4 pin XLR that same Cayin has a .3 ohm output impedance which would NOT result in any measurable FR changes. Headphones below 80 ohms are best ran via these "balanced outputs", above that threshold there are minimal differences between the two on that device.

Good to know, thank you. I knew it wasn't placebo, but i'm not surprised by these skeptical audiophiles, bc there's a lot of snake oil in this community.

Interesting. Does that mean higher impedance headphones don't have this problem as much?

Thank you for the insight

Hey i'm not making this up haha, idk how i hear a difference either

Idk what the downvote was for. Volume isn't even a problem bc THIS PAIR IS ONLY 16 OHMS jeez

Thanks, but i know all this. It's just if i look for TRRS headphones, none show up. Instead i get articles talking about the different kinds of headphone jacks.

It's a pretty great pair, sounds fairly similar to my akg k400, just less separation and soundstage, and more bass.

Bit more vshaped, but pretty close to the harman target, and a little warm. A bit boomy when i used it single ended, but it got a lot better when i used it balanced. Idk why either, but it's definitely not placebo. Volume isn't a problem bc it's only 16 ohms.

Nope. Bass is tighter and less muddy. Not placebo

it made a huge difference on my mdr 1am2 on the qudelix 5k, just saying.

(Edit: idk why you guys can't take me seriously. I 100% guarantee this isn't a case of placebo. Bass is definitely a lot tighter. Not talking about the increase in volume.)