MaxTheAlmighty
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqb7xe wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
No, what Is "the hero's journey"?
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqagng wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I think that the idea of God living on the clouds can be used in art and it's also a cool artistical concept, but that we shouldnt believe that Heaven Is like that: the idea of gods living in the sky comes from the olympian greek mythology, if i am not wrong.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq8zv1 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I don't think that knowing the future denies the will of humans. I think that God knows the future, but doesn't want to manipulate people and so he allows humans to be free. Even though he knows what Is going to happen, he writes human characters to be free. So, if God wrote a book in which humans are included, he would have wrote, in simple terms: "And so this day X person was born. Leaves empty space in which X can write"
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq6wyz wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
After all this discussion, i want to admit that in reality i am a catholic christian, and i think that God wants us to make this questions in order to make our faith stronger. I don't know what religion or system of belief do you practice, but i respect your opinion too and please, don't pretend to be smart by calling me an idiot who blindly believes, because i go against blindly believing.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq5qwg wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
That means that we should not do what we like, therefore going against our free will. Real example: this year i entered High school because i love to study the subjects there (in my country there are different types of High school). But since I should follow my free will, then i should change school and live a sad life with nothing i like. Ok, i realized that the reality Is that the concept of "free will is not real" is an illusion and that free will is real, but since we are really deep in it we can't see it anymore basically. We just discovered that free will is real and the lack of free will is an illusion. We humans are so limited to the point of denying ourselves.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq3pee wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
This also proves free will, because you can separate the actions of your body from the actions of your mind. Now, many people say that mind and brain are the same thing, while they aren't at all. For example: an old man who became foolish and ignorant because of Alzheimer's still keeps his tastes, even though he doesn't know what does he like anymore.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq2fpe wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
It means that, for example: When you walk downstairs without thinking about the movements of your legs, you do it without wanting to basically. But when you realize that your legs are mindlessly walking downstairs, you realize how scary that lack of will was. Or, another simplier example: When you realize you are breathing, you start to breath wanting to do that.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itpzs56 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
After making this discussion, i started to become a bit sad: since a lot of humans have or never realized that their actions aren't fully conscious, does it mean that they are no different from machines? Does It mean that real humans are very rare? Since children often act impulsively and almost randomly, are they still humans? I don't like the idea of humans being for the most part aleatory slaves, people who have no choice but to serve a dice...
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itpxpn4 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
But when we humans create something new, we use real life existing objects . For example, you cannot think of a color your eyes can't see.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itpudd9 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
But someone would say that dall-e can do that too. In reality, that AI program just smashes pictures from the internet together.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itpgfyb wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I was saying that also calculators can do that, but calculators in reality work on a "if this combination, then do this" system, unlike humans.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp9643 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I came to the conclusion that our brain Is similar to the holy Roman empire: each part of the brain vaguely recognizes the power of the mind (the mind only directly controls a small part of the brain), but a big part of the brain Is actually highly indipendent.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp4ur0 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Well, if we are mindless machines, as many people believe, why do we have a vague concept of free will?
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp4oxn wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I mean, the concept that before acheiving reason and knowledge humans were just AI
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp4mor wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
And i can't really know if i am an evil clinically insane criminal that Is actually living an illusion and Is in reality making mafia business or terrorism, right?
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp4irg wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I noticed that my concept of a human without free will is similar to the story of Prometheus
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp4gak wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Mine too. I mean, i can't really know if you are a robot, an ai, an alien, a human or someone else.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp35je wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Yeah, It could be. But i am sure that humans are not walking random generators: if free will isnt real, then we would see people randomly running pointlessly naked across the woods and doing pure nonsense.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp2jw2 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Now i want to know your opinion about my discussion.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp2975 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
In my opinion, to become more self-aware and achieve free will, we have to sometimes change our routine and focus on our self-improvement and interests. For example: why would you always wear that clothing while you can buy other ones? Why do you always use the same browser while there are other options aviable? Why do you always eat the same meals while you can try new foods?
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itp22xs wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I mean, he could not control the muscles he controlled previously and had to spend more effort into speech, since he used that machine to speak and his disease made the movements of his tongue more difficult too. as a consequence he had to think more, becoming totally self aware.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itouzt3 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
This leads also to another conclusions: the first human on earth had free will, since he was not conditioned by anyone else and had to always think how to build a house in the woods or other activites like hunt or harvesting crops. But at some point he also started to act like this impuslively
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itouonn wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Then this leads to this conclusion: if God has free will, then he acts in an uncomprehensible way
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itoue10 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
If you say "ok it's time for confession, i am the Person that manipualted SovArya all this time", you achieve free will for a few minutes.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqbi31 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Animals don't have the idea of good and bad, they act like if someone was forcing them to do that stuff.