Sennheiser has been bought out by sonova, If you can try to get a couple older pairs and you’ll get a lifetime product. Hd560-600 range is amazing headphone, the old marble counter 600 has last me about 16 years and countint, no defects so far!

If you want something long term and easily repairable look into meze 99s, they are fully servicable with a long gurantee! Amazing sound on the 99s and if you want to go budget-er the 99 neo’s are good as well

Well funny thing, I just learned my ipad has a 3.5 jack! I am so used to getting shafted by newer gen apple on this that I totally forgot it has a 3.5! I've been using the dongle for everthing for the last 2 years, thank you!

Huh, it seems like I might be going back to wireless after all. Thank you

I did mess with Peace, yes and I also downloaded some FLAC files "legally" to see if the difference was about my source files. I don't really like going full volueme on anything my ears are a bit sensitive after going to the club a total of 6 times in my entire life. But it was night and day! Even on bluetooth what I got out of the Ipad and the windows is crazy different. See the thing is I recently discovered this and I am not really good at troubleshooting OR problem solving for that matter. If anyone asks "Lossless high-res" saved my life and for the rest I have no idea why one sounds better then the other. I just know I enjoy my current setup at least 56x times more.

The motherboard is a stock HP so I have no hopes for the sound card to be any good anyway, I just had the accidental step to the "other side" and now can't turn back.

Also, I don't know if thats realted either but turning off Dolby Atmos really imroved my experience as well it seems like. Other than anything Pat Benatar ever sung which is weird...

I was lost at the lower end for a long while. I still kinda like my shure se215 and my current lover (was a gift) the momentum 4. Trying them out side by side the 600 just feels like ambrosia for the ears that I can't even imagine something above it. I tried the 800's and a couple of high end Meze headphones as well but I think I just couldn't tell the difference if there was any. I simply can't justify a 2k bump in the price for an experience that will feel the same to my slightly deaf ears, thus the "long time".

Alas, I'm already lost down the espresso rabbit hole. I just sunk 3k on upgrade half a year ago and I still feel the impact on the quality of food I'm having at home (no regrets!)

Over the years I've kinda turned allergic to the concept of wireless, things just seem much more reliable the old fashioned way (for now). Though the idea of turning my headphones wireless does sound good :D You mentioned that the power draw is about double for every 3 dB, how long does the BTR3 last on battery alone? It seems... tiny.

I have a reason or two but it mostly comes down to "big fish eat medium fish = not much really".I might be biased. First of all Sonova, a company that isn't intrested in hi-fi equipment, isn't likely to fund any department in sennheiser that will keep developing audio equipment. I am not so old that I saw many products drop in quality but even now, new sennheiser products aren't up to par with the older ones(mostly in longevity). When I buy something I usually want it to last a while. I still have my Stanley classics from 2005 and they are pretty much like new.

Everyone that I know who had a chance to buy the 600s still use their granite counter versions pretty much daily. The new gen 600 was already a drop in material quality and for the next version I don't have much hope for it to be produced let alone without half a kilo of plastic.

I don't necessarily think they will cut out the legs of senny, but public exchange companies are mostly just trying to boost up the share prices, and keeping sennheiser as a company that develops high quality headphones isn't really to their benefit.

Secondly the company vision seems to be "make everyone use wireless headphones duh" which doesn't sound good to me. Either way Phonak is carrying sonova on their back and Unitron is their main tech group. This just doesn't give me much hope for the future of sennheiser as it seems to just be a quick grab off the market that if it doesn't profit them, will just stay as a brand name while their researchers and engineers are distributed to other brands

I have the dongle already because although I am a windows fanboy I just can’t get used to android phones. When I swapped to the Ipad It was crazy how much the audio improved. I thought I was streaming losless high-res (to my shure se215 and porta-pro’s).

Hope it all sounds good, I guess we’ll see tomorrow!

Oh hell yeah I’m never walking again :p

Ah so It bypasses my soundcard. Maybe my pc will sound good now too!

Oh, I was looking at the dx1 on amazon. Think it’ll work out well with the Ipad?

I had some nice headphone (though for a limited time) before but I never had the sound scape experience until I tried the hd600’s in a sennheiser store. So I have a general idea of the kind of audio I am aiming to get at home but I think I’ll be satisfied for a LONG while nevertheless

Well, thank you!I’m hoping the Ipad can handle it!

I see, but the issue is I can go to a car dealership and get a test drive, for this I need to order one off amazon and hope for the best :/