ManannanMacLir74
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja7kay1 wrote
Reply to comment by hereforstories8 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Typically not understanding that many dates in ancient timeliness are not set in stone and speculative is a good place to start
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja7k4b9 wrote
Reply to comment by vmp916 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Please read up on the "Indus valley script"
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja6hyzh wrote
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja6hwvc wrote
Reply to comment by MisterFistYourSister in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Peer review isn't really reliable but it's still used so why would I refer back to a flawed method?
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja6hppo wrote
Reply to comment by thestoplereffect in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
I don't know but this is the same problem with the script of the Vinca culture which predates Mesopotamia.Some scholars say it's a script and other's say it's not
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja62bcr wrote
Reply to comment by khinzaw in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Scholarship used to say cuneiform is about 300 years older than hieroglyphics supposedly but I fail to see how they came to these dates and timelines
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja61xic wrote
Reply to comment by khinzaw in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
There is no evidence cuneiform influenced hieroglyphics why do you all keep parroting outdated scholarship??Yeah that's my whole point both consensus and evidence are now saying both scripts developed independently this is obvious
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja60fbc wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
You're going to parrot peer review yet more than a few scientific studies and papers have exposed the flaws in it and argue it's ineffective nature.
Do you want those studies or papers too?
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja6078g wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
What?If your going to discuss an academic level YouTube channel then we have nothing further to discuss and peer review means absolutely nothing
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja601lb wrote
Reply to comment by Pademelon1 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Absolutely and we still don't know how to read the Indus script but it doesn't help that some scholars argue that the Indus script isn't a script at all which opens a can of worms in that debate
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zw6h wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
I'm not a scholar in these fields but I do try to keep up with the latest developments in this debate
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5ztbn wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
All of that is based on old dating and I don't know how it's evidence anymore than it is guessing.
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zpzk wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
How is what?Are you going to be obtuse and refuse to watch the video?
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zhx2 wrote
Reply to comment by tanksforlooking in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
As I've said above watch the video but to give you a bit of context the idea that cuneiform came first or influenced hieroglyphics isn't widely accepted among all scholarship like it was decades ago.The most likely scenario is that the two evolved independently as they're very different and even if cuneiform evolved first it definitely didn't influence hieroglyphics much at all.Even the kingship in Mesopotamia was very different from the Pharaoh's of Egypt for a few reasons. Lastly if I'm not mistaken Egyptian civilization sprang up fully formed first while Mesopotamia was still in warring city states
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5o0n9 wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
History with Cy goes into some detail on cuneiform vs hieroglyphics
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5nv76 wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Also another error is attributing writing to Mesopotamia first
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5nqqy wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Many scholars actually argue for simultaneous evolution of both Egypt and Mesopotamia and no Mesopotamia had contemporaries so they weren't the first at all to have a religion which is absolutely absurd to say.But there is evidence for a divergent evolution especially when it comes to writing between Mesopotamia and Egypt. I keep bringing up Egypt because it's the oldest contemporary civilization to Mesopotamia
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja9z308 wrote
Reply to comment by hereforstories8 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Understanding that most timelines are guessing is a great place to start and don't get me started on radio carbon dating