We in this country ask the same questions all the time.

Why the hell can't they talk about this outside of budget negotiations? These idiots need to be voted out of office. The number one job of government, first and foremost, is to protect citizens and their property. If those in charge don't see that there are serious problems (that they've caused) and and need remediation then they shouldn't be in the job anymore.

The MTA has been way too comfortable for way too long and as a result get away with way too much. There needs to be a serious shake up. There can't be this looming threat of service cuts every time the MTA doesn't get its way financially. Voters need to raise holy hell and send the message to the politicians that this is NOT acceptable and certainly not sustainable. If any private business were run like this it would have gone bankrupt and the execs would have all bent sent to jail.

The permitting is separate issue allowing them to have more than 2500 patrons in the establishment. It's not clear if they could operate 'normally' w/o that permit, if at all. If the end result of all of this is the state/city gov't forcing a move then this could be eminent domain (thus requiring compensation).

A lawsuit would have no standing. MSG owns the property. If this is an eminent domain case then the government would need to compensate the owner when taking the property. Just like if the government takes someone's house to pave a new highway on the parcel of land - the govt HAS TO pay the owner of the house fair market value.

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>It is another word for condemnation - the right of the government to take private property for a public purpose. Various examples would be to make way for a road or public park, or to provide housing for disadvantaged persons. The United States and New York Constitutions require the government to pay you fair compensation if it takes your property.

https://ag.ny.gov/real-property/faqs-about-nys-eminent-domain-procedure-law

No conflict of interest here...

This will help alleviate crowding at Penn, surrounding streets, and connecting subways.

So the Amazon HQ2 serving as the tech hub for the organization - with many high paying jobs - was no good. But a casino? Great idea. Let's vacuum up money from the people who can least afford to lose it! This state is run by a bunch of cretins.

Emmteeay is an old Indian word for 'broken escalator'.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly these people back to the origin countries and let them do their asylum request from there?

Taco Bell??

These people are mentally ill.

Can this be cancelled permanently?? This was funny the first time but it's really lost its novelty. Go find something else to do.

Are these positions eligible for pensions?

>New York is among a handful of states, including Connecticut, that use the power of eminent domain to seize private property for economic development. In a 2009 case affirming New York’s authority, the state’s Court of Appeals ruled that the legal bar for blight might “have been set too low” but said it would be up to lawmakers to change
the definition.
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>Over the past 15 years, dozens of states have placed limitations on when they can take
ownership of private property. But not New York State, which has among
the fewest restrictions on its power to rebuild areas in the name of
economic development, according to the Institute of Justice, a
libertarian policy group that tracks the issue.

Well that's very concerning. Where's all the outrage over this?

So what is their total comp (health care, pension, etc)?

It's expensive to give out other people's money.

Damn. All of these years I never realized this was a thing! Thanks for sharing!

Never under estimate how crowded NYC is. Hence always allot yourself extra time if you need to be somewhere at a particular time. Just because Google maps says you can be there in X min doesn't necessarily you will be there in that time. And it doesn't account for any wait times at your destination.

The $1 billion is not a forecast as much as it is a mandate set by the legislature. The goal is to hit $1 billion dollars whatever it takes.

In general these types of programs never generate the revenue that is expected. Throw in all of the carve outs and the 'ingenuity' of people to find workarounds and you'll be hard pressed to hit that number. As it's a mandate to hit $1 billion the only option at that point will be to raise the fees to make up the the carve outs and work arounds. Of course this will not prove to be popular and will likely get a lot of resistance. In fact this study determined the most numerous population segment of commuters are police (which likely won't be subject to the congestion fees).

"The tract will also surely be the epicenter of the fight over congestion pricing exemptions, since any exemptions given out to people driving and parking in this slice of lower Manhattan could eviscerate the entire program."

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/11/04/congestion-pricing-study-finds-law-enforcement-are-manhattans-most-numerous-car-commuters/

However this not the important point. The main problem is that this new revenue will not fill the hole. Even if it was $2.5 billion the MTA would find a way to say they are at shortfall once again.

The fate of the MTA has been been in the MTA's own hands since its inception. Decades of corruption and irresponsible fiscal policy have put them in this situation. Congestion pricing is a tax. It will not come near generating the $1 billion that they think it will. Even if it does it still won't fill the projected $ 2.5 billion dollar budget gap in 2024. And this is AFTER they burned through $15 billion dollars in federal emergency aid.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/7/25/23278062/mta-fiscal-cliff-federal-funds-near-end-of-line

Well there's always the thought - let's do this - and then when comes down to it everyone always assumes that someone else will be doing the helping and the paying for it.

WOW -

>McCarter was arrested in March 2020 after stabbing her husband, James
Murray, who reportedly entered her home, where he did not live, heavily
intoxicated, and allegedly threatened her life. She was found trying to
administer CPR while screaming for assistance, and her neighbors say
Murray had been on a bender in the building. But the grand jury that
approved a murder charge against McCarter didn't hear
about Murray's drunkenness that day, or his detailed history of violent
behavior and abuse, because prosecutors declined to share it.

HA! That's awesome! I can swear I've heard mocking birds mimic crickets also.

On a similar note - I once saw a mockingbird trolling a cardinal with its own song. Even though the cardinal could see the mockingbird was making that sound he still felt complled to respond every time the mockingbird sung it.