LogicalAF
LogicalAF t1_j9xhwgf wrote
Reply to comment by fluffybottom in Lawyer argues fetus of jailed pregnant woman is being illegally detained by He-is
But since fetuses are persons in Florida, it's a violation of their rights.
LogicalAF t1_j9x9vgh wrote
Reply to comment by Batbuckleyourpants in Lawyer argues fetus of jailed pregnant woman is being illegally detained by He-is
Since the "kid", and let's be clear, fetuses are not kids yet but let's use the term for the sake of getting the point across, has no agency because it's in "life support", it's the right of the mother to decide if she wants him to stay in that place or not. If she decides she doesn't want her kid, who can't speak for himself, to be in prison, then they have to free him. Otherwise it's a violation of his constitutional rights.
If fetuses are people, then they have rights. If they can't talk, then the parents reserve that exclusive right to speak on their behalf.
You can't have it both ways.
LogicalAF t1_ja12hss wrote
Reply to comment by Batbuckleyourpants in Lawyer argues fetus of jailed pregnant woman is being illegally detained by He-is
Listen, they don't trial cases based on hypotheticals, but on concrete facts. Fact 1: mother and fetus are locked in jail. Only one of them committed a crime (if we are to believe a fetus is a person). Fact 2: the mother was put in there as a punishment, but she did not put the fetus inside of her, therefore she's not imprisoning him...otherwise she could be forced to "free" him.