I'm talking about the film looking worse visually. And him getting bad performances out of good actors. And him using the trope he used from Mama for the attacks in chapter 1 one of "penny wise runs at characters quick then nothing happens". And him losing track of the tone of the film to the point it was a comedy. And going with an ending of bullying the clown into a baby. And then spending 1 hour on useless totems that felt unrelated to them and pointless in the plot. And him relegating the only black character to doing almost nothing in each film. And the letter for the suicide that is like "don't worry guys it was cool my husband completes suicide". And lastly that chapter 2 is one of the worst major horror films in a while

I know the material was hard, but they also spliced in kid stuff anyway in chapter 2 and it didn't help it.

I would love to be proven wrong. It chapter 2 was majorly bad and chapter 1 isn't as good as it could've been due to muschiettis impulses. But I have wanted a good flash movie forever and I like what I've seen so far. So i will happily (and hopefully) admit that I am wrong when flash comes out.

Damn Muschietti got carried by the cinematographer and great material in It Chapter 1. Everything else he has done is mediocre or worse. Wish they would let him go but oh well.

There is less strategy than NFL/American football. I was leading into how NFL's variety and complexity lead to it being a more compelling and entertaining sport moment by moment compared to football/soccer.

There is a lot of strategy in football, but by comparison to American football it is a lot more simple.

> The game of soccer is simple, this is true, but this is not to say that playing soccer is easy. Johan Cruyff once said something that I have always found very interesting: "Playing football is very simple, but playing simple football is the hardest thing there is.” It’s true, soccer is also a game of skillful art, and only few get to master it.

https://unozero.com/blogs/news/soccer-is-a-game-of-simplicity

It's okay. It's the truth whether you read it or not. I get it's hard to accept being wrong especially when you believed something to be absolutely true and then find out it's so off the mark

It is funny though that you said i was subjective and stubborn and then refuse to read objective evidence disputing your point.

I know it's hard to accept "the greatest game" isn't really the greatest game. But soccer currently has many flaws in the way it is run that devalues its entertainment value for most people. Soccer/football is easier to understand since it's such a basic game compared to the NFL it just feels a bit shallow watching something with such little strategy.

Since it's a big thing for your brain to accept, I included ample evidence below.

Soccer is actually losing popularity while the NFL is growing. It's not in a healthy spot due to super teams, lack of entertainment in most games, poor or lacking post seasons, and a lack of parity. It's in a hard position and I'm not sure (nor are a lot of people), how it gets out of it in Europe. As it declines there be ready for a down period where the NFL will likely expand and take more of the Market in a Europe.

On Soccers issues:

> "Football is facing problems which won't resolve on their own," he said.

> European football is losing its undisputed leadership in global sports. European club football is not living up to its potential by not offering week after week the best sport on a global stage

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/european-football-is-dying-says-new-ceo-of-super-league-promoter-5fb2b009-8970-4eec-8751-c2d0bcac0031

Or how football/soccer is struggling in Australia

https://alexanifantis86.medium.com/football-is-dying-a-slow-death-in-australia-heres-why-d2a12fa096db

Why NFL is more entertaining:

Nfl has much more parity than soccer/football ever could. Parity makes each game more exciting. Any team can get better within a couple of years. Seeing so much variety in success marks a healthy league. The domination you see in soccer/football makes the leagues feel stagnant and predictable.

The short season of the nfl also adds to the entertainment value of each game as every game matters. Every moment of every game is hung onto.

Not the mention that the game of American football is much more varied and difficult than soccer is. There is so little strategy in soccer compared to American football. In between each snap in American football is a game of chess that is then played out by incredible athletes.

In America football you can have a big play with a fumble, interception, long pass, td, sack etc. this variation within the game compared to soccer makes each more more entertaining per minute played. I think this is common sense compared to the simple game of soccer

In the NFL some rich person can't just spend billions to buy stars. The cap in the NFL prevents making a team overpowered though money. You see some real issues with parity and interest with the lack of competition between lower football/soccer teams compared to the NFL.

You really like seeing people win by points in a season instead of a post season? Soccer leagues that do that, and lack a post season in general are just weak. Not a huge fan of consistent draws.

The NFL is the most valuable league in the world, with the NFL being worth more than all of the major soccer leagues combined. I know this is somewhat irrelevant to the watcher, but the amount of money into makes the production value high quality and consistently evolving.

Evidence you are very wrong about people not caring outside of the US

Nfl is extremely dominant in America. I don't have to go into those numbers. however, below is some hard data of how the NFL continues to grow in world markets. It is popular in Mexico and has been for a long time. Europe has been hosting games that sell out in 24 hours since 2007. Because of the popularity they added game's internationally, recently in Germany which has a fast growing NFL fandom. I expect that to continue and rival football due to the above issues. If you don't believe me I included a lot of hard data showing the NFLs growth. If it is this popular in America, imagine how popular it will continue to grow. Meanwhile soccer has peaked with its saturation and the generally low quality of play across leagues makes the lesser teams have interest drawing people.

> Up until some years ago, London was the biggest ‘hub’ of NFL fans in Europe. Lately, Germany has long surpassed Britain and has eventually become the largest market in the region. A recent study showed that both countries have nearly 3.3 million avid fans and as much as 17 million casual fans. Amongst those fans, a very large percentage is actively showing interest by consuming branded products, purchasing subscriptions to TV broadcasts, placing wagers on their favorite teams and so on.

https://www.americanfootballinternational.com/the-nfl-is-gaining-more-and-more-fans-in-europe/amp/

> As mentioned earlier, general sale tickets for the NFL London Games sell out immediately. Hospitality is the best way to secure your seats when this happens, as well as being a good treat to give you an absolutely unforgettable day!

https://www.seatunique.com/blog/nfl-popularity-europe/

> 69,811 fans attended the sold-out game live in the Allianz Arena, home to Bundesliga side FC Bayern Munich

> The game was NFL Network's most-watched international game on record in the United States with more than 5.8 million viewers (does not count OTA viewing in Tampa and Seattle)

> German broadcaster ProSieben saw a record-breaking 2.7 million viewers watch the game, making it the most-watched NFL regular season or playoff game ever in Germany -- only trailing the last three Super Bowls as the most-watched NFL game of all-time

> DAZN Germany confirmed the game was the most viewed single NFL broadcast, after Super Bowl, on their streaming platform

> Fanatics, the NFL's exclusive event retail operator for Europe, has confirmed that game day merchandise sales at the Allianz Arena were the highest-ever recorded for an NFL game outside of the US

> NFL Germany's social media channels during the Munich game week saw 20 million video views (up 360% vs. an average week), 3.4 million fan interactions (up 717% vs. an average week) and 30,000 new followers across channels (up 526% vs. an average week)

> The NFL's International Home Marketing Area program saw all four clubs with rights in Germany activate in Munich throughout game weekend, with the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers each hosting their own "Brauhaus" (bar) in Munich for fans, along with other fan activities

> The NFL partnered with 21 "Brauhäuser" (bars) within the Munich city center, hosting tens of thousands of fans at these team and NFL-themed experiences

> Thousands of fans visited the NFL's takeover of the city's Odeonsplatz, a free fan activation open from Thursday, Nov. 10 until Saturday, Nov. 12, complete with an NFL Shop and 32 giant NFL helmets on display

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-makes-history-in-munich

Your really sourcing the daily mail lol

You're right in some senses though. I'd take a soccer team for longevity over WWE. The WWE has a lot of merchandising, tv deals, theyve diversified their assets, and generally are a well run company. It's a bit more complex it how it can grow compared to a soccer team, which will always retain value. The WWE could grow more valuable if you continue to run it well, or go to shit if it's poorly run and be worth much less. Most soccer teams, especially like Manchester United, is only to go up in value. But I think the expansion past a team is a lot rarer than what the WWE grew into.

Nfl football is more watched, a better sport overall, more entertaining, and more valuable. The nfl is more valuable than all the big soccer leagues combined, and for good reason.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2022/09/08/the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-2022/?sh=5e967622385c

Most entertaining sport out there