KellyKellogs
KellyKellogs OP t1_jaevsnt wrote
Reply to comment by agarimoo in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
For Charlie Babbit:
It was several days of being a vile human being to his brother without any compassion. He didn't just treat his brother like an animal, he spent most of the film berating and bullying him too. I can imagine someone doing that for a moment, maybe even a day, but to look your brother in the eyes and refuse to see his humanity for days on end, that is an irredeemable character flaw.
It was also the language used. If someone used that kind of language to insult to a non-disabled person, I'd tell them to stfu. If someone talked to a disabled person like that, you don't wanna know what people would do to them where I'm from. To use that kind of language is inexcusable and an indicator about his character, not his emotions.
Watching someone treat a disabled person like shit for 1.5 hours and even after their moment of connection was deeply upsetting. I used hyperbole, I don't want to torture him, but I do want to beat him up.
For the suggestion, thanks. If a character is presented as a cunt at the beginning I'll pause the film and try and find a way to connect with them.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jacl0bk wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
I got that he was under a lot of stress and I expected Tom Cruise to be an arsehole for a significant proportion of the film. It was just too long for me. Several days later and he was still treating him like he wasn't human made me think that there must be something going on other than stress, the man must be evil because stress alone can't cause someone to treat another human like that for days on end.
For me, the part where I think he was irredeemably bad was during the Vegas sequence in the 3rd act where his brother wanders off and Tom Cruise's character still treats him like shit. It felt like even after he connected with his brother, he still treated him like shit.
I think it's also because I watched it 30 years after release and the kind of insults the character used might have been mildly acceptable at the time, but in my lifetime they have always been completely unacceptable. The kind of language that would get you fired and blacklisted from your job.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jach0wh wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
He spends the first hour of the movie and 3 in-movie days insulting, berating and dehumanising his autistic brother. I found it very upsetting to watch it happen for such an extended period of the film.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jacd88i wrote
Reply to comment by HEHEHO2022 in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
I used to hate tragedies and it was only after reevaluating how I understood tragedies, to stop rooting for the main character, but still empathising with them that I began to love them. I am trying to see if there are any tricks to enjoy films with characters that are evil from the start.
I tried in the post to emphasise my problems with these kind of characters and give several examples.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jac850y wrote
Reply to comment by HEHEHO2022 in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
I do enjoy films with nuanced, morally grey characters. I listed plenty of films and characters in the post.
It's just when a character is irredeemably evil that they are not morally grey but have no morals at all where I just can't connect with them and end up hating them.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jac6r93 wrote
Reply to comment by warrenmax12 in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
It's based on real life though. It says at the start of the movie.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jac5ssx wrote
Reply to comment by warrenmax12 in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
Disliking mass murderers is not being on a high horse, it's just being human.
KellyKellogs t1_ja73p0y wrote
I disagree and I would've loved for them to tell some of the story.
I just didn't understand what was going on. I felt visually uncomfortable because of the flashing white lights so I didn't understand much of what was happening in those scenes.
KellyKellogs t1_j9cp8xa wrote
Reply to comment by Sig770 in Average Attendance for North American Sports Leagues [OC] by BoMcCready
More seats in football stadiums.
Football is also a fairly popular sport in the USA and the fastest growing one and the most popular sport among young Americans.
There are also less MLS games a year than NBA games so fans can afford to attend a higher percentage of MLS games than NBA ones.
KellyKellogs t1_j7qsr9f wrote
Reply to comment by SpiderFarter in [OC] Red Notice is the most popular Netflix movie of all time (based on hours watched) by giteam
I thought Birdbox was a solid film. Nothing special, some big flaws but I really enjoyed watching it.
KellyKellogs t1_j7qsl3f wrote
Reply to comment by pk10534 in [OC] Red Notice is the most popular Netflix movie of all time (based on hours watched) by giteam
I thought that, as a satirical parody film, it was shit and most of the jokes didn't land. It was also a bad satire of Trump's Whitehouse and just not very creative.
I think the ending was beautiful but the rest of the film switched constantly between serious drama and bad satire that it kept taking me out of the film.
It's like they made a satire film, realised it wasn't good enough and so added a whole bunch of dramatic scenes to try and improve it.
KellyKellogs OP t1_jaewgh6 wrote
Reply to comment by staedtler2018 in I keep end up disliking good films simply because all the characters are sad degenerate fucks and I hate them for it. Is there a trick to liking these kinds of films? by KellyKellogs
He starts off describing his childhood, we get a snapshot of his future as a rich man. We get to see his struggles to try and make money first and his introduction to Wall Street. It is only quite a bit into the film where he is introduced as an arsehole. He isn't a very sympathetic character but he at least starts as a charismatic character and we are only introduced to his flaws later on. (Really at the dinner scene where we are introduced to 4 of his colleagues in one go.)