KanadainKanada
KanadainKanada t1_j6gw2j0 wrote
Reply to comment by Zebra03 in China’s Top Nuclear-Weapons Lab Used American Computer Chips Decades After Ban by hzj5790
A capitalist will sell you the rope he will be hanged with.
KanadainKanada t1_iy9ltb7 wrote
Reply to comment by YoungPatrickBateman in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
> encouraging a person to kill themselves who has previously expressed no desire
So lets say someone starts to look around for talks about suicide & self-harm & depression that would imply definitely desire. Someone looking at 2500 posts about suicide (not getting messaged 2500 private mails!) is pretty sure is expression of a desire.
And the bill is fucking not about person a trying to actively encourage person b. It's about
> Content that encourages someone to harm themselves will be targeted in a new offence, making it illegal.
So a page, a group, a subreddit, a forum talking about self-harm could easily be seen as 'encouraging'.
You are not seeing the forest for the trees. This is not a law about someone gaslighting someone else to suicide.
Edit: Additionally you haven't apparently read the article. Because the case is nothing about things like you claim your niece faced. Even more - there are already laws to act against persons that directly attack, stalk or insult you (or your niece). It's already illegal what those girls did. So - you want another law that you can 'ignore'? Because you could have just called and used the existing laws.
KanadainKanada t1_iy9a2dj wrote
Reply to comment by anti-torque in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
You seem to like pretty arbitrary interpretation of legal language. No surprise.
KanadainKanada t1_iy99sk5 wrote
Reply to comment by Chief_Beef_ATL in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
> Thankfully no young children use the internet.
Too bad there is no one, like literally no one assigned as the guardian of that person that I don't know regularly checks on the shit that child does. I mean - no one is checking the shit you post online, right?
You do not understand language, do you? Incitement to commit a crime is illegal. Incitement to go fuck yourself is not a crime since fucking yourself is not illegal. You get it now?
KanadainKanada t1_iy99ex0 wrote
Reply to comment by YoungPatrickBateman in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
> it’s looking to eliminate encouragement of self-harm.
So, is advertising unhealthy food encouraging self-harm? Is selling a car that is hard to control, has much HP, encouraging self-harm?
So if we talk about dementia, dignity and a self-controlled life and death, if we talk about assisted suicide. That's self-harm, right?
See, in Germany there was a law making it illegal to advertise abortions. Which resulted in "It was illegal to say that your doctors office was conducting abortions".
Your primary source of antagonism? You really believe that a persons primary source of antagonism is some shit in the internet? It's the last drop in the bucket - the real cause is a)parents and b)direct personal contacts/authorities in your life - in that order.
KanadainKanada t1_iy4tlnp wrote
Reply to comment by Chief_Beef_ATL in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
Additionally - suicide had and still has a strong stigma. Because people in the past fucking knew that it was a failure of parents, teachers and community. Depending on religion it was a mortal sin. Or still is even. That totally fudges the numbers. Happy little accidents to bury the dead kids instead of you know... outside the graveyard due to sin.
You lack to see how brutal the past generations were. Read up on black (poisonous) pedagogy. And even in media - behavior that was common in schools. Sure it was less "words" and more actual sticks and stones - but hey, it is of course totally impossible to evade anonymous online terror by going anonymous yourself then evade the gang living in the same village than you.
KanadainKanada t1_iy4sxcf wrote
Reply to comment by Red-Dwarf69 in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
Okay... sniff... if you say so!
KanadainKanada t1_iy4socj wrote
Reply to comment by anti-torque in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
> given this is in line with incitement laws.
Incitement is "In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime."
Is suicide a crime? No. So inciting someone (adult to adult) to suicide is not a crime.
KanadainKanada t1_iy4s1sh wrote
Reply to comment by Chief_Beef_ATL in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
> It's illegal to tell someone to kill someone.
Wrong. It is illegal to incite someone to commit a crime.
Is it a crime to commit suicide? No. So, is inciting someone to suicide a crime? Of course not. At least as long as we talk about sane adults. As soon as you step into people that aren't legally competent, need a guardian etc. that's something else.
KanadainKanada t1_iy45o99 wrote
Reply to comment by Chief_Beef_ATL in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz
Is self-harm a criminal act? Can you be punished for self-harm?
If not - then how can encouraging you to do something legal be illegal?
I can encourage you to smoke and offer you something to smoke and it would be totally legal - as long as you're not a minor that is.
So, will tobacco companies be dissolved, disowned and their wealth redistributed towards the NHS? Because their ads but also their products are absolutely promoting self-harm, even addiction.
This idea of criminalizing self-harm is a)legally stupid, b)creates legal precedent for much worse laws, c)covers up the real culprits.
If you think kids start self-harm or suicide because of some online posts - no, the base for that behavior is laid at home by the parents, then by the school environment. But hey, if someone else is responsible you ain't gonna need to change anything at home!
Self-harm didn't come into existence with internet or Tiktok. It was always around, and it was even more severe in the past.
KanadainKanada t1_iy455uu wrote
Voting for conservative and neoliberal parties is self-harm. Thus they are forbidden to put up ads.
KanadainKanada t1_iy0bdvv wrote
Reply to comment by Blutarg in TIL The worlds first computer virus was developed by Jon Von Neumann in 1949. It served as proof that computer programs are capable of replicating themselves by s24569
It's not a virus! It's a virtual Von-Neumann probe!
KanadainKanada t1_ixp69uu wrote
Reply to comment by CommyTzar in My 8 Year Old Drew this. I asked if it was Hatsune Miku and she laughed. I feel like a dinosaur. by Accomplished_Tea7781
So tell the names, go ahead. And if you come up with more than two you're already wrong. And then which of those two is even in the description of the anime - let alone mentionable.
Yeah. In German we call people like you 'Klugscheisser' - claiming to give useful information while giving only meaningless information.
KanadainKanada t1_ixp4rcx wrote
Reply to comment by CommyTzar in My 8 Year Old Drew this. I asked if it was Hatsune Miku and she laughed. I feel like a dinosaur. by Accomplished_Tea7781
So go ahead and name a few more mentionable female Shinto priestess (ideally with blue hair)? I mean - obviously it's such a common thing that you accurately named none...
KanadainKanada t1_ixnqv9r wrote
Reply to comment by Accomplished_Tea7781 in My 8 Year Old Drew this. I asked if it was Hatsune Miku and she laughed. I feel like a dinosaur. by Accomplished_Tea7781
With my meager knowledge of just a few hundreds of anime. She looks like a mix of Hatsune due to the blue hair. But with the red miku dress of Kagome from Inuyasha. So maybe it is just her own creation!
KanadainKanada t1_ixn5dkm wrote
Reply to My 8 Year Old Drew this. I asked if it was Hatsune Miku and she laughed. I feel like a dinosaur. by Accomplished_Tea7781
Don't keep us waiting? Who is it?
KanadainKanada t1_jebbwbg wrote
Reply to comment by LupusDeusMagnus in Florida's Current State by aswissguy
Well Catholics aren't - they are used to dick since their time as altar boys.