To be honest, that just tells me we allow people to enlist in the military too young, not that 17 year olds are adults.

I learned that my first month living in NYC. Empty cars are empty for a reason.

I think you did misunderstand since in this case the abuser has very much been removed from their position (without pay) until they can figure out what happened, which I support. Have a good one!

It’s possible to believe he’s almost certainly guilty while also thinking there should be an investigation before his employment is permanently severed, especially since they have already suspended him without pay. You don’t think that’s the case, I disagree. That’s fine.

So if someone says he should be fired and I disagree, I should NOT say anything because it makes a bad “poster child” for my point? Fairness is important all the time, not only in the most egregiously unfair cases. I clicked on a thread to find out what the deal was with this. I saw an opinion I disagreed with. I said something. Nowhere is it implied that this is supposed to be a “poster child” for anything. If you jumped to that conclusion, you should reevaluate. People can care about two things.

Well you got me. I used due process in an informal sense and not a legalistic sense. I must support domestic abuse. Well played.

You keep right on thinking that someone should be fired for any accusation. I’ll continue to believe that an indefinite, unpaid suspension is enough until some sort of due process…er…investigation has taken place.

It’s possible to be concerned with two things. The original comment said he should be fired already. I was addressing that. Do you really believe that it’s not possible to both think domestic abuse is bad and that an indefinite, unpaid suspension is a sufficient punishment for now? I wish I lived in your black or white world. Sounds easy.

Of course that can do anything they want, but that doesn’t mean they should.

He hasn't been convicted yet, but he was suspended indefinitely without pay. Doesn't that seem like a good enough response until all the facts come out and he has his day in court, or at least until the university, or the police, can conduct an investigation? Do we really want to be at the point where an accusation means someone is immediately fired? Like just telling him to stay away and not paying him isn't enough, it has to be immediate termination without any due process at all?

Apologies. Your post made it sound like you didn't think TCU, OSU, and Michigan earned it.

>And you earn your chance to show it during the regular season. They didn’t do that.

Alabama lost twice. If Alabama loses once, they get in, probably over Ohio State and TCU. Live by the SEC die by the SEC. SEC teams get the benefit of the doubt, even if they have a loss on their record, but they have to earn that by playing an SEC schedule. But you can't lose twice and still expect to get in. As you say, you earn your chance during the regular season and Alabama didn't do that.