Sad to see it go but I do have a piece of it now.

I like trees, and dogs, and birds, and silence, and rocks, and… and… and… people are somewhere way down on that list so… ? Live and leave me the fuck alone. Though I and most of my neighbors are more than happy to help and lift up our community, that’s different than signing up to be anyone’s friend or entertainment.

I’m an out of stater myself. Yes, it turns out that I was lucky and moved here prior to this housing crisis that is nationwide and more due to wealth inequality than anything else. I’m grateful everyday for that but hate that a mix of desperation from some and impatience and self centered blinders from others has them beating a drum that will overwhelmingly benefit the uber-capitalist fat cats and not deliver the utopia they dream. Shit sucks right now for far too many, period, hard stop. My heart breaks for the housing insecure and my comments are not intended to minimize their struggles but developers are not our saviors. This crisis is an opportunity for a paradigm shift rather than a band-aid, but I’m not holding my breath. My focus is my kid, and the generations beyond but I fear that we’re screaming into the wind. I’m not going to advocate kicking the can down the road any longer. We don’t need so much of what so many are convinced we need to live a meaningful and good life. We need a healthy ecosystem. Somewhere someone has to say stop, enough.

Edit: To clarify before anyone misreads and tries to tell me what I said or mean, I’m NOT grateful for the housing crisis or wealth inequality. I’m grateful that I was just lucky (and was quite patient) that I moved here at a time when houses sat on the market for many months to years and people weren’t stepping on each other and trying to outcompete locals for housing. I’m grateful that I was seen through a positive lens back then. Unfortunately that’s just not now.

Not blaming out of staters for anything. Just challenging the idea that more growth is needed or even better. Everything has a cost benefit. I don’t buy the bullshit and arguably dated old and myopic arguments for endless growth. Vermont should truly be progressive and embrace and lead in de-growth, a system not dependent upon consumption and more. Just take one look at where endless growth and consumption is leading us…

I’ve seen all too often where falsely incentivizing growth leads us as well and it’s not pretty and those who benefit typically aren’t left holding the bill in the aftermath.

Are you fucking crazy? Attract MORE?!?!!? Have you been under a rock? Seems a bit upside down considering the current state of things. Maybe we should worry a bit more about those already here. Fuck more.

Vermont does not “NEED” to grow and accommodate a larger population. Some may WANT it to.

Obviously you’re not a golfer.

WTF are you talking about? Yes you are definitely missing something and letting your own cognitive blindness cause you to project your oddly derived meaning into my statement. You struggle with reading comprehension it seems.

You appear to be attacking my comment when it’s in response to the person shitting on those jobs. Maybe I’m in fact misreading you but if you’re implying that I’m considering those jobs uneducated or bad you’re missing something.

Your criticism of my specific comment might reflect on your education as you’re missing the context and thus misinterpreting my statement. Read it again in the context of the thread and maybe reconsider your reactive reply.

A society that only rewards MBAs, software engineers, and investment bankers can’t exist. Your “solution” fails to acknowledge we’re all dependent on the “uneducated” and “bad” jobs you’re implicitly shitting on and expecting everyone to wave a magic wand and free themselves from. Who’s picking up your trash in your myopic utopia?

…and in southern Vermont and Boston

virus doing what a virus does. If this was a dress rehearsal I don’t want to see the real deal. Let’s hope the H1N1 jumping to mammals doesn’t go full steam because collectively we have our heads up our asses.

Edit. H5N1. bird not swine

this without psypact as well is just selling Vermonters short.

Exactly. Fuck that neo-Jim Crow segregationist bullshit. Keep that cancer the fuck away. It’s disgusting how it’s the norm in the south. Tear down the gates.

NOPE

Yeah, let’s make Vermont a soulless corporate hell scape like everywhere else…. ummm, hard pass.

But, but Vermont is safe from climate change /s

So the silver lining is if the tree falls insurance will likely offset much of that cost and as long as nobody gets hurt, other than the hassle it’ll be a win in the long run.

I lived in hurricane country for some time and lost trees in storms. Mine never took out my house but damaged other structures on my property and I knew others who sustained house damage including one person who was in bed and woke to see a tree limb through their ceiling. Shit happens in life. Be safe and don’t panic and no sense really losing sleep over what ifs.

Unfortunately my grandma is dead

not here

Disclaimer: climate change is real and it’s negatively impacted by us humans.

With that said this is absolute hyper-speculative bullshit. To pretend that they can predict “safer” locations with such specificity is a hack job and an extrapolative misrepresentation and PBS should be ashamed.

Years ago it was called global warming until it was better named climate change but the reality is that it’s climate destabilization and to peddle such hopium fantasy that any of us can run away from what’s to come sadly just allows too many to keep their heads in the sand and prevent the real collective and needed changes from happening. And oh what a joy that the rich fucks who aren’t rich enough to buy up property in New Zealand for their bunkers can buy it up here based on this bullshit.

Miami

Can’t fix stupid unfortunately. The stupid ass questions will persist. I just hope the dumb ass fad passes soon and the lemmings will move on to what’s next on the algorithm hot list before they fuck it up here like everywhere else the locusts swarmed. Locust lemmings… the latest apocalyptic variant.

Asheville, NC in November will be similar vibes to VT in October

Bonus- venture to Hot Springs nearby, do the whole spa thing for the honeymoon

Not sure why a group of pacifists would have feelings of hostility towards a region that they’re not really associated with? This isn’t Pennsylvania