Jack04trades
Jack04trades t1_j25dirt wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
>Median US income for 16-25 year olds is 31-36 thousand dollars.
Median Russia is 8100 USD.
>Average rent CURRENTLY paid is 16 thousand a year.
Average rent currently paid is 4860 USD.
>The average American spends another 2k per year on utilities, which does not include internet or phone bill (two required things in America), thats another grand for internet.
Average russian pays 1296 USD (in my case its 1500). For internet its additional 144 USD and around 30 USD for phone bill + around 77 USD per mobile phone.
>You are gonna need a car, public transit is minimal and cities are not walkable Another $1500 for gasoline.
We don't have to have a car to move around country or in cities, we have public transport everywhere, but only in 3-4 cities its somewhat okay, also we have good subway in Moscow and SPB. Overall for public transit we pay around 480 USD per year, as for gasoline we pay average 1300$ (mostly more).
>Well, you are gonna need to pay for your car so thats another 6k per year. Another 1.5k in insurance costs for said vehicle.
Can't tell how much is for car (taxes), but for insurance average is 1000 USD.
>For health insurance, you are gonna need another 6k per year. Another 4k for food.
As for medicine, its taken from our social insurance, which you MUST HAVE ANYWAYS (nobody asking, its automatically given and takes 5% of your taxes paid or more).
As for food it takes 1621 USD per year because from this point you have to use discounts, or you have no money left. Otherwise it would be around 3000 USD.
>Tell me about summer homes? Nobody has those here.
If you mean those little homes in village, its not just summer homes, people selling flats to go live outside city, when they are tired of it. Most of them are elders.
What exactly do you wish to know?
>You said OWN, or do you rent said flat? Because a mortgage for a condo here is going to set you back 17k per year. I certainly dont own any flat or apartment or home, neither do most people under 30.
Yes, i own a 70 meters flat with 3 bedrooms, kitchen and bathroom.
Its not mine completaly, i've got it in inheritance, after my grand-grandma died and i earned it when i wasn't even in first class at school.
As for mortgage - ours flats currently worth of 5 millions rubles for 25 meter flat (studio), which is 67567 USD. You will pay around 4054 USD per year for that for 25+ years (which is actually untrue, since those numers doesn't include % for mortgage which is AT LEAST 10%).
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As you can see, almost all prices are the same as yours, but your salaries are higher. The only main exception is medicine, which is well known in world.
But the problem is that if u go for rent, even with median salary, you will give 60-70% of your salary just for rent, others 30-40% will go for food, public transit, and to pay your bills. In the end you have nothing at all.
And the fun thing, is that i told its median salary, but most of people who get this salary are living in 3-4 cities. Two of them is Moscow and SPB. So its almost like half Russia are living with lesser salary, like 20-40% less.
Jack04trades t1_j22q4lm wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Thank you. Currently im at work, ill answer later, after 10 hours around.
Jack04trades t1_j22p9dd wrote
Reply to comment by Ph0enixRuss3ll in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Its arguable, depends on the case you want to solve.
Jack04trades t1_j22p5rh wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Im sorry. But i don't know how to see entire thread :( reddit seems unconviniet to me. Could you, please, tell?
Jack04trades t1_j22k4x6 wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
We have those taxes as well, taxes: for buying anything store are 20 percent, for alcohol additional 15 percent, for your own flat or house, car, etc. If you wish we can actually compare our salaries. Lets start from something. For example i waste like 20 percent of my salary for food per one person. And its that if i buy food using discounts. Many of them. Also when i was speaking about up to 54 percents of taxes it was that what i mean about employee. You get your salary minus at least 44 percent.
Jack04trades t1_j22iv1m wrote
Reply to comment by neglectedselenium in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
What did it tell?
Jack04trades t1_j22isbt wrote
Reply to comment by neglectedselenium in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Nuclear plant takes 5 to 10 years to build. And in Russia we invented and already using a new process of reusing nuclear wastes again. So it's basically almost endless nuclear energy right now. And you forgetting one thing: in previous comment i told i hope green energy will bece truth. But its not green now at all. You just dont know some little things about it, and most of you dont care. Because its green for you, not for the place where its produced. For example parts of wind turbines made nano carbone texture, which cannot be recycled, so its just buried into the ground. But politics will not tell you that, because its just gives as much dollars as nuclear plants.
Jack04trades t1_j22i245 wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Fairly low cost of living indeed. Paired with very low salaries xD Right now im paying bills for my flat that i own, it cost me 20 percent of my salary. Our real taxes are 45-54 percents not 13 as many of us believe. Which is twice higher than USA. For the end i wanted to say, that im one those people that nobody can "buy". I dont care about money as long as its enough for me to just live. I could become politic here and make Russia a better place, but if i will, i will be surrounded by lots of rats and snakes, risking to find my family eventually fall of the windows. Thank you for warm words, it helps!
Jack04trades t1_j22gsv8 wrote
Reply to comment by Ph0enixRuss3ll in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Im aftaid women leaders in politics aint much better. We had one women leader in Yakutsk, first year she eas doing very well her name is Sardana Sarkisyan. But after that ahe showed her true face. Since she was from the same politic party as most of our politics (Edinaya Rossiya, pronounced as Russia as One), she didn't care about people after getting some advertising. Even in her city where she was a major, people noticed that she did nothing of what she promised to. Its highly depend on a human as a creature itself. For about evil king, and shooting in your schools, i do agree.
Jack04trades t1_j207i78 wrote
Reply to comment by Ph0enixRuss3ll in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
>You're definitely Russian: "everything is shit and the only hope is to have no hope".
I didn't say that, you did.
>But I am thankful at least I'm not Russian.
Thats kinda rude, but nevermind.
>I'm a globalist with global views
Not sure what do you mean by globalist, in my case i believe the only future of humanity is to unity as one planet, instead of making more differences between each other, which leads to problems.
>Especially as a gay man. I definitely would have been murdered for being more proud of being gay than proud of my country.
Where did you get this info? i have like 5 gay friends and they have no problems in Russia. As well as we have gay clubs free to visit. We are not some kind of arabian country. Maybe our people not as polite as western to gay people, but not everyone.
>I love the rough, bleak realism some Russians have.
Most of us are like that. Our country is a way more tough to live in than yours. We have same problems, but less freedom. No weapon, no selfdefenses, and many more.
>Russian fascist government
Here you are wrong. Yes, our government is shit as hell, and most of russian would agree with that. We (again, most of us, except brainwashed part) hate our "president" who is actually dictator.
But its not fascist. Here is etemology:
>A form of open dictatorship based on racism and chauvinism, aimed at the eradication of democracy, the establishment of a regime of brutal reaction and the preparation of aggressive wars.
Our government (not country, or russians ourselves) indeed do all things, except those i checked as bold.
We do not have racism and chauvinism. Our country full of different races, also during current war in Ukraine, we still accept ukrainians, who running from battles. Simply because many russians have part of their families living there (ukranian part). For example currently my grandma and my uncle living in Odessa right now, and there is nothing i could help them with. Except for what i did: hide from being mobilized to this war.
>its evil dictator who murders gays for sport.
Yet, i do not understand where did u find this information. If you have any link or anything else, please, share.
Jack04trades t1_j1z4pdf wrote
Reply to comment by Whiskeypants17 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Nuclear, gas stations are the main source of energy yet on the planet. France has 6 of them for a reason.
Jack04trades t1_j1yz6zs wrote
Reply to comment by Ph0enixRuss3ll in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
You are half right man. But dont say "at least" there is no excuses for both your country or mine (Russia) our voth government are complete shit. Just be honest, there is no good guys politics. Every time i hear there appeared i new good politic in Russia, i think: its all for show. Eventually it was really is. And same for every single country. Yiu dont have even elections as well as we are. Your choice is only between republican's and democrat's, who are two sides of one coin, made of shit. If you wanna discuss, im opened for conversation,.but please, lets be polite.
Jack04trades t1_j1yyl3l wrote
Reply to comment by Bugfrag in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Oh. So that's why after renewable energy being pushed forward, in this year there was lots of blackout's in USA. Damn, people. Its not green energy. Its green for your own country. But to make these solar panela and wind turbines you are making hell lots of easte as well. Also "green energy" cannot replace burning yet, its still a lot worse in efficiency. Maybe in future it'll be better, i hope. But not now.
Jack04trades t1_j1yy653 wrote
Reply to comment by bottleboy8 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Wait. But everyone told it was our country who destroyed our own gas pipeline. Obviously to freeze europeans and lower the money flowing into Russia 's budget. No. It cant be that other countries lying as well.
Jack04trades t1_j27goxo wrote
Reply to comment by freemyslobs1337 in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Yes, i do agree. Imo its all because of the incompetent governments who instead of investing into yours and ours nation future, instead of making allies and unite, fight each other for decades, wasting our money for weapons and all other things we dont actually need. For example our army really have some problems with equipment, but thats not because its shit or something. Its because most of it being stollen by corrupted people and sold from our analogue of your ebay. They simply want to be hell wealthy and rich for exchange of someone lifecost.